[woodspike]

Sometimes gently nudging people in the right direction pays the bills even better, and gives you more usable portfolio material that will sell future projects too.

i get it.
of course i`d say " you know thats a traditional look , and this is not a traditional house, it would look better if you used ...."
but it still comes down to what an old latin guy used to say ( kiddingly)
" you want formica upside down ? ok , i put formica upside down !"

so many clients don`t want to pay to remove , and re-install new base after they put a laminate , ortile floor in .
once you start all that , theres a good chance you have to re-pant the walls . ( for sure ding dongs along the way will get their hand prints and dirt on those walls.

so a one day jobs turns into 2-4 day job, and costs more than twice the 1/4-round thing .
or they just wanted that quick , fast " throw in a laminate floor , and get out"


can`t blame them .

 

[MarkJames]

I know a floor guy who refinishes without removing the shoe. Is that uncommon? He does nice floors, but that bugs me.

 

[SLSTech]

I know a floor guy who refinishes without removing the shoe. Is that uncommon? He does nice floors, but that bugs me.

depends on the finisher & if he has or knows a good painter - I would say most would like it removed because it is easier, but 1/2 just leave in place or never ask

 

[heavy_d]

AND THAT'S why you use a base shoe molding. Easily conforms to the variances in wood floors like that. Caulk?, that is a painters or handyman's fix, not a someone who takes pride in his workmanship of wood. Yup this flooring forum, but if the finish carpentry looks like hell, you look like hell.



:laughing: Smiling miters hehe

Haha I wanted to comment on the poor workmanship but thought naaa. Glad someone did.

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[A&E Exteriors]

Make a return

The thing that bugs me when using 1/4 round or shoe, is where the base ends into the door casing. What do you do? Cut a 45 and call it good? Round off the end? Any way looks kind of hokey to me.

 

[Big Johnson]

Make a return

Quick and easy with one of these:

 

[rblakes1]

Quick and easy with one of these:

I like the little fence on those, that's the complaint I have with the set of cranes I use

-Rich

 

[rusty baker]

quarter round came in to use because people would do an overlay - whether vinyl, another layer of wood, etc... & were to lazy to remove the baseboard which in some cases I can understand i.e. 1x10 stock with plaster over it

as also mentioned above as baseboard became thinner it wouldn't cover the gap

the final item is not all floors stay at the same plane so there would be a gap which most customers wouldn't accept

Between these three items it became almost synonymous with how things should be so even when it isn't needed most people install it / request it

Me, I try to educate HO's & skip it all together - one helpful item is mention how much closer to the walls they can place furniture, with that they have the green & you can knock it out pretty quick

Quarter round was used at least as far back as the late 1800s on all hardwood floors. My house was built around 1900 and still has the original oak hardwood, the tall base and quarter round. These old houses would look wrong without it. I have worked in several houses built In the 1889s and all had quarter round and tall base.

 

[Golden view]

Quarter round was used at least as far back as the late 1800s on all hardwood floors. My house was built around 1900 and still has the original oak hardwood, the tall base and quarter round. These old houses would look wrong without it. I have worked in several houses built In the 1889s and all had quarter round and tall base.

Again, you talking quarter round or shoe molding?

 

[SLSTech]

Quarter round was used at least as far back as the late 1800s on all hardwood floors. My house was built around 1900 and still has the original oak hardwood, the tall base and quarter round. These old houses would look wrong without it. I have worked in several houses built In the 1889s and all had quarter round and tall base.

True, I have seen those to - I think that has more to do with the style / location of the house but I have also seen plenty without also so don't really consider it normal

 

[pinwheel]

True, I have seen those to - I think that has more to do with the style / location of the house but I have also seen plenty without also so don't really consider it normal

We've worked on a lot of turn of the century houses over the years all over MO, SE IA & western IL. Quarter round was the norm, not the exception on most of these homes when they were built. When they came in & laid carpet, the quarter round was removed.

 

[tjbnwi]

I don't install quarter round, looks like dog doo. If someone wants quarter round, they can do it themself.

I use base shoe.

Tom

 

[TNTRenovate]

So much cleaner. IMO

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What's up with the gap? You don't like shoe, but then don't scribe your base? Talk about lazy!

 

[TNTRenovate]

Then there is that chitty sliver of flooring. At least my shoe will cover the lack of scribing the base and the sliver of flooring left from a lazy layout.

 

[Texas Wax]

What's up with the gap? You don't like shoe, but then don't scribe your base? Talk about lazy!

Dang your Johnny on the spot with those assessments Rob:laughing: Drive by professional experting without reading the thread much?

But it can't be pointed out enough imo. :thumbsup:

 

[FloorsByAlex]

****. Release the hounds. Wtf. My point was, I see I lot of ppl using actual quarter round. Not shoe, and not door stop which actually looks pretty decent. I must be the only wierdo who thinks quarter round looks just as ****ty as a small gap here n there.
This project had a bunch of backfilling and tying into existing flooring, so the layout was what it had to be.


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[TNTRenovate]

Dang your Johnny on the spot with those assessments Rob:laughing: Drive by professional experting without reading the thread much?

But it can't be pointed out enough imo. :thumbsup:

What's wrong with commenting as I read? I think it actually goes to prove the point rather than piggybacking off of another. Did you just want all the praise for the catch? I will scan all threads to make sure we don't jump on the same thing next time so you can take full credit. :thumbsup:

 

[TNTRenovate]

****. Release the hounds. Wtf. My point was, I see I lot of ppl using actual quarter round. Not shoe, and not door stop which actually looks pretty decent. I must be the only wierdo who thinks quarter round looks just as ****ty as a small gap here n there.
This project had a bunch of backfilling and tying into existing flooring, so the layout was what it had to be.


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Really, cuz it sounded like you didn't like either just the clean look of base.

Point being is yours looked chittier than if you had installed shoe.

 

[rusty baker]

Again, you talking quarter round or shoe molding?

Quarter round.

 

[rusty baker]

We've worked on a lot of turn of the century houses over the years all over MO, SE IA & western IL. Quarter round was the norm, not the exception on most of these homes when they were built. When they came in & laid carpet, the quarter round was removed.

Back in the 70s when I started, the norm was to leave the quarter round and trim carpet to it. Now most pull it. But
I have always asked the customer and they get whatever they want. It is their house. They are paying for it.