Yes it can be done. May want to think about using metal track and using a Ramset to fasten the track into the beam. Then just use wood studs in the track. We shoot into steel all the time in commercial.

 

I have seen it done like this all the time, with the red shot. Just make SURE of one thing...wear hearing protection. It is incredibly loud.

 

Thought about using adhesive top & bottom?

 

Just glue it. PL400. Cut your studs snug to hold it in place. bend a nail over or cleat it till the glue dries.

 

Did this when I went up and finished my parents basement. Works great. I made sure to cut the studs extra snug.

 

If you're not set up to do Ramset, then place just a few bolts and use adhesive on the rest - Liquid Nails or such. I'd probably build and place with adhesive, then drill and tap for a bunch of screws - depending on your application, and since there's nothing structural about it, a bunch of 1/4-20 might be perfectly fine, and would only take a few minutes. If you start getting into 1/2 in+ bolts and nuts, the drilling starts to be a real PITA. Properly placed adhesive will never fail, anyway.

 

You could also predrill your top plate and get some 2 - 2 1/2" tek screws to fasten through the beam.

 

when we have to do thisjust drill a 3/16"hole like every 4' threw the steel. Glue the top plate and run a screw in the holes from the top. it will hold it untill the glue dries and it wont allow it to shift around like just bending a few nails over. also will hold it up in place so no need to try to wedge it up to try to get stud dimensions.

 

I haven't had too much experience using the adhesive But it sounds like a great idea!
It sounds like that may be the easiest approach.
I think I would like to put in a few bolts say every 4 feet or so As well as using adhesive.
My main concern is that by drilling holes in the I-beam Would I be weakening the structural integrity Of the beam?

 

It doesn't.

 

You are adding a supporting wall that will actually make it stronger if you make your studs nice and tight.

 

Thanks for the great ideas I now have a plan.
This forum never ceases to amaze me.

 

Shoot it...easy peasy.

 

I wouldn't worry about weakening the beams structure since you are basically building a wall for the beam to bare on. Add horizontal blocking halfway up the wall and make it structural if you are that worried.

 

Hilti DX460+red shot+basaltic point pins. 1/2" steel plates got nothing on you.

 

Hilti DX460+red shot+basaltic point pins. 1/2" steel plates got nothing on you.

I will never forget the first time I saw a guy attach some temp wood bracing to a steel column with his Hilti powder gun...I knew I wanted one after that!

 

I had the same experience. Same feeling as the first time I watched a chop saw blade approach a piece of Schluter trim metal.

 

I had the same experience. Same feeling as the first time I watched a chop saw blade approach a piece of Schluter trim metal.

It's funny when you realize a better way to do something that's been right in front of your eyes the whole time.

 

Get some self tapping framing screws with steel track. Or as stated above just ram set it. I remember back in the summer trying to put some 2x4 furring strips on huge h beams 1" thick. hilti couldn't do it, even with the black shots.

 

Tappers on an I beam?

I think i'd dull the whole box before one would go through.

We shoot. If that ever fails, we hook up the magnetic drill press, pre drill and than bolt with nylon nuts.

 

Beam wall

All good ideas but if your basment is on piles or a footing remember to float the wall and use a pressure treated plate if in contact with the concere.

 

I just glued a top plate to a steel ibeam yesterday....and told my helper." I think I can shoot through this""" I chickened out.:confused1::confused1:

I have a duo fast shotgun.....Would it have worked?????

 

Yes it would have worked. See attached

http://www.ramset.com/fasteners.asp

This is done everyday, and is no big deal.

 

Can't say I've ever seen a plate glued to steel...

Drill & bolt, studs or Ramset are the most common ways, residential & commercial...:thumbsup:

 

Can't say I've ever seen a plate glued to steel...

Only way I've ever done it.

 

Glue my plate? If it moves and my wall gets skewed someones getting screwed :whistling
I was thinking about this the other day, if you had track, you could only get one nail in side of the stud assuming its like a basement frame..how to does 1 nail work... not too well. what am i missing?

 

When you use steel studs against a wall, for instance in a basement exterior wall both screws are installed the same direction. So the screw closest to the basement wall is screwed first through the stud and then into the track.

 

Glue my plate? If it moves and my wall gets skewed someones getting screwed :whistling
I was thinking about this the other day, if you had track, you could only get one nail in side of the stud assuming its like a basement frame..how to does 1 nail work... not too well. what am i missing?

Are you assuming the wall being framed is along the exterior of the foundation? Since he's trying to frame under a steel beam more than likely it is in an open area where he can screw off a stud through both sides of the track.

 

3M exterior double sided tape will amaze you! :thumbsup:

I also use the pins to shoot into the steel with my Hilti gun.

Glue does work also.

All good advice here.

 

3M exterior double sided tape will amaze you! :thumbsup:

I also use the pins to shoot into the steel with my Hilti gun.

Glue does work also.

All good advice here.

I only use double stick on temporary partitions on a finished floor. Works great.

I have to agree with Griz. Never heard, done or seen gluing plate or track to a beam, or any steel.

 

I've glued a bottom track to a concrete floor before... Worked without any issues.

 

I would just PL the top plate and drill in a few self tapping screws just enough to hold it straight. Steel I beams should be plenty strong enough to have a couple holes in it. And of you're really concerned make it tight and it will bear some on your wall.