[chris bellotti]

chris from rye ny, gc, custom homes

NEED INFO PLEASE,
was always a cedar and pine guy, but now I'm doing my own house in Hardy.
How much waste on a typical colonial, not inc. gables?
What about Hardy shakes on gables, and how much waste?
What's the best cutting and shaping blades or shears out there, and where can I buy?
ANY INFO WOULD BE APPRECIATED!

 

[ApgarNJ]

I use a circ saw with hardie blade for straight cuts, but for custom fitting cuts i use snapper shear brand shears.

some other guys can chime in on the waste factor for shakes because i haven't used the hardie shakes. I usually do 10-15% waste factor for plank siding.

hope this helps.

 

[brob1969]

I'm in Florida and we blind nail the planks with a roofing nailer then come back with a finish nailer and hit the boards about every 4 feet. Once painted you don't see the finish nails at all. Makes for a tight install.

 

[bobaganoosh]

Hardie pricing is based on the exposure. It takes the same amount of time to put on a 4" exposure piece as it does a 8" exposure piece. Therefore we pay $12 per piece of hardie which is $3 per square foot for 4" exp. and $1.5 per square foot for 8" exposure. Wood trims, building wrap, flashings, strapping, and soffits are all separate prices.
Note: the above is labour only. Insurance, materials, taxes and markup are extra.

 

[RED HORSE 554]

install cost

James Hardie product, cost $3 to $3.25 a square foot and the labor cost should be close to the cost per sq ft finished plus paint

 

[sideing]

heres a genral cost

Help!! The blunt question is: What is a reasonable "price range" for the per square installation cost of hardie plank or other comparable cement siding? (either as a contractor or as what you might pay a sub to do it for you)

The sample base is a newly constructed 2 story, split level entry, deck in front and back, normal windows and doors home on the north-central Oregon coast.

Realizing there are so many variables can anyone tell me how the cost of putting on hardie plank compares with other siding applications such as cedar lap siding, T1-11, cedar shingles, vinyl siding, etc.

One other criteria - - do any of these costs include window wrap, corner boards, soffitt installation, or whatever else? What is the standard norm?

Thank any/all of you so much for any input.

If it were me depending on the build or house you are looking at a buck sixty per square and thats not including trim or envalope thats a good starting price then every thing else starts from there:thumbsup:

 

[sideing]

NEED INFO PLEASE,
was always a cedar and pine guy, but now I'm doing my own house in Hardy.
How much waste on a typical colonial, not inc. gables?
What about Hardy shakes on gables, and how much waste?
What's the best cutting and shaping blades or shears out there, and where can I buy?
ANY INFO WOULD BE APPRECIATED!

Hardie shake is a good product easy to use there are only three sizes so its easy to make a pattern so you keys dont line up and minimal waist i would say maybe 10% best tools would be a makita skill with hardie blade makita seems to be the one with the best bearings and 10 inch compound chop saw by the hitachi blades they last the longest and stay sharp you can get them perty much any matirial store even home depot has them dont like the shears very much slow cant do rips and knotches if you are good with a saw works the best bin doing hardie and siding for many years hope this helps

 

[GCDan]

Fiber cement siding requires more planning, a larger work force, and takes longer to install due to its weight and composition.

Fiber cement siding weighs about 300 pounds per square, compared to 60 to 70 pounds per square for vinyl siding.

Moving this stuff is hard work and you don't want to move it more than once.

You need more employees on the job to move and support the boards as they go up and cutting them is time consuming
which will drive your labor and installation costs to double or triple the cost of installing vinyl siding.

As compared to a vinyl product of similar cost the cost with installation should be 40% to 50% higher.

According to my James Hardie sales rep, the national average for contractors who install Hardie Plank is $900 to $1,000 per square including soffit and trim.

As always there are guys who are looking to make a days pay and give the job away, many of these guys pay employees as 1099 subs without workers comp., taxes and FICA, carry minimal insurance and may even use undocumented laborers.

You can't operate a business for profit, carry all the proper insurances, bonds, workers compensation and do this work on the cheap.


Just for sh*ts and giggles:

Hardie Plank Color Plus cost: $150 per square

Tyvek Cost: $100 per square

3 men installing 3 - 4 squares per day: $750 = $215 per square
(in NY workers comp. alone cost almost $60 per man day)

Coil Nails, staples, Saw Blades, other equipment and materials: $55 per square

Total COST to contractor per square: $520

Add Overhead & Profit 30%: $156 per square

Your customer should pay: $676.00 per square

This DOES NOT include Soffit or Trim - add in the soffit and trim and you will be close to the national average of $900 - $1,000.

 

[GCDan]

Sorry 1st Post - Duplicated and can't DELETE

 

[MAD Renovations]

I think they found the answer to this very OLD (years old)post!!:thumbsup:

 

[GCDan]

I think they found the answer to this very OLD (years old)post!!:thumbsup:

PERHAPS someone searching TODAY might appreciate a more CURRENT answer.

:clap:

 

[hammer 689]

about 600 a square for me.also i would like to add i never use a roofing nailer i prefer using a coil nailer with 2 and a quater shank nails because i dont think roofing nails hold well and they definetly dont get in the stud much wich is needed i think in my windy area and i face nail all but joints and edges against windows,corners etc. with stainless nails and as needed in the field if not laying down tight.

 

[GCDan]

about 600 a square for me.also i would like to add i never use a roofing nailer i prefer using a coil nailer with 2 and a quater shank nails because i dont think roofing nails hold well and they definetly dont get in the stud much wich is needed i think in my windy area and i face nail all but joints and edges against windows,corners etc. with stainless nails and as needed in the field if not laying down tight.

Does that include soffit, trim and tyvek?

 

[Tinstaafl]

PERHAPS someone searching TODAY might appreciate a more CURRENT answer.

Dan, the problem is that while your answer might be right on the money (pun intended) for you and your area, it can be way off the mark for someone in the next state or even a nearby community.

For that reason, these days we discourage throwing out numbers that way.

 

[Tom Struble]

tyvek 100 a sq:blink:must be that new gold plated tyvek :clap:

 

[hammer 689]

thats just a rough estimate for house wrap , siding and install only.no trim,soffit etc.there are a lot of variables as we both know so it really is hard to say.that is just a rough figure

 

[rock16]

According to my James Hardie sales rep, the national average for contractors who install Hardie Plank is $900 to $1,000 per square including soffit and trim.

I think your sales rep may be smoking something.

 

[welterweight]

900-1000 per sq seems average. could be much more depending on the scope of the install.
guys coming in at 600 per sq is very suspicious to me and is a RED FLAG for shoddy work and a whole host of corner cutting. not to mention there is no profit.

 

[rojigga]

I think your sales rep may be smoking something.

I think is!

 

[contractorjay]

chicago area
650 without window/corner
750 w/ window/corner