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floating shelf help

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#1 ·
I have a client whose kitchen has no upper cabinets. I am doing tile backsplash from counter to ceiling. They want floating shelves for storage, which I generally have no problem making and installing. My problem shelf though needs to be 2-3" thick, 12" deep and 10' long. This shelf needs to be rock solid as it will also support to the OTR Microwave.
It would mount to tile, over drywall, over stud framing.

I'm aware of different floating shelf construction styles like mounting as framed box to the wall, and slipping the finish material over it. Also there's the 8" x1/2" steel pegs that gets mounted to studs and shelf a slips onto pegs...

I need to be sure this shelf is secure and not lose sleep over it.
Am I overthinking it, what would Bob Vila do. Ideally I'd like to do the framed box and wrap with 1by pine...

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#4 ·
The 1/2" rod method works well. Accurately find the center of the stud and use a bit the right size so that you really have to hammer the rod in.

Too late to do anything before drywall? With an OTR hanging from the shelf I'd consider something a little more beefy, in the wall. Like a couple L brackets nailed to side of 2 studs (like the size of a framing square with a 12" leg)
 
#5 ·
I have done floating shelves using 5/4, 6/4 & 8/4 lumber.

Preferably 4x blocking has been installed but if not CAREFULLY find center of studs.

Then i buy long lags, dia depends on shelf & framing.

Pilot hole studs/framing and install lags.

Cut heads off and counter bore shelf.

Install shelf.

Been pretty bullet proof.
 
#7 ·
Microwave adds a whole other level to this. Those typically come with their own mounting hardware and instructions. I'd read those carefully to find out what the requirements are and if you can get a lot of that weight going backward into the studs instead of all hanging off your shelf.

Is the tile already there? It'd be real cool if you could open up the drywall and fasten directly to the studs then have the tile guy work up to your shelf. One of the last shelves I installed was above tile and I ran into a problem where the rock wasn't really up against one of the studs but still had tile over it. Once I attached my bracket above the tile, the rock was pulled tight against the studs which cause nails to pop and the tile to get yanked off of the rock. So yeah, watch out for that.
 
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#14 ·
Cool, basically what I proposed, but someone's already made them.

Only thing these aren't great for is alligning a shelf directly with tile layout. I often make a 2 1/2" shelf that matches the height of the back splash tile and basically replaces a row. Hard to land right on a grout line at rough in phase. If the shelf it tall enough you do have some leeway and can shim above or below the bracket.
 
#18 ·
OPer: " I am tiling to ceiling from back-splash...."

Install FULL depth blocking, such as a 4" x 8" blocking that extends past either end of the shelf, and consider wider blocking at MWave, (Vent)?
even a piece of 1/2" plywood instead of dry wall under the tile, You could even use a scratch coat with steel or plastic mesh if the studs are a little flimsy even blocked up.

this would allow a new box for the Microwave for sparky to install...