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Cypress Siding 2 coats TWP (natural) application technique 4,000 sq ft. Advice

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I attempted to post more pics but it kept saying "failure to upload" . I do not have a lot of experience with these types of exteriors this will be my first one like this. I have done decks and fences over the years with TWP so a little familiarity with that. The wood is Cypress siding. It has been up for about 6 months here in Nebraska and the GC wants 2 coats of TWP natural and there is $4,500 sq ft of siding.This house pops "back and forth" all the way around between the stucco siding which is blue and needs covered up and the cypress siding. I want to put this on with an airless for best production rate (assuming) i have heard some people don't like the airless idea because of atomizing the colorant. assuming this won't be much of an issue with "natural" TWP although the GC said natural does have a tint. Am i going to have to back brush both coats ? to avoid lap marks from the gun ? assuming i should not put a roller on it for obvious reasons ? i did wonder about rolling horizontally "with" the siding like one would do on a deck ? but this is a 3,300 sq ft million dollar house on a lake and needs to look top notch. Any advice/opinions/experience would be greatly appreciated.
 

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The stakes are too high to guess on that house.

Build a tester panel and try some different techniques.

If it was me, I think I would use a 6 inch purdy whiz roller to back roll. Working off planks, or little giants you could coat and back roll pretty quickly.

Dont half ass it.

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I'm also saying buildings like these get repainted every 7 years anyways. They're on a schedule for repaints, usually mandatory.

While it might be excellent to back roll or brush this job, today's competitive painting methods (here on the left cost) forgoes brushing or backrolling,
with equal success and reliability. If I were to bid that job backrolling or brushing , I would be outbid by more than one, easily. And their siding paint job would do fine and look ok. Maybe not fantastic, maybe not as good looking as laboriously backrolling or brushing.

That's how it is out here. The demand for super duper quality has taken a back seat to economic reality on jobs like these. It has for some time now.

Out here, jobs like the one depicted (OP pic) are sprayed. Sprayed.
 
#16 ·
I am not sure what you mean about "If that gc cant afford $500 so a helper can backroll then WTFFF?!!" ??? i am not sure what you are talking about ? the GC hired ME. I was asking for application advice. No mention of money. I am at $1.00 a square ft which includes materials but that is cheap here.
 
#18 ·
Painting is all about materials costs and being fast. Primer and paint I usually use $15-25 / gal paint and primer. All spray, or roll primer and spray the rest.

This project, I'd just spray. Back rolling or back brushing is supposed to get rid of any pinholes you may get from imperfections in the wood. It's more of a problem with a thick paint than a thin stain. If you're worried about pinholes, only the first coat would need back rolling or back brushing, not the second.
 
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Went out there today to play around finally had a nice weather day. Thankyall so much for the advice and opinions. I can see why TWP recommends a conditioner to open the pores. It just does not want to soak in. It looks like little pinheads of stain because it won't absorb correctly. Builder wanted to try without though and see if home owners approve it. So we will see tom. I did not have to cover all the stucco like i thought even though it is windy as hell because it is on a lake. i just used a 412 tip and sprayed and back brushed. i just plastic out like 8 ft. The biggest brush sherwin williams had was a 4" purdy. It worked but i need a bigger brush for 4098 sq ft surface area. I sprayed 2 boards side by side and back brushed one for comparison. They looked the same until they dried and the one that was not back brushed looked like crap. I also tested back rolling with a 3/8" nap synthetic nap and that left too much on. Main problem though it won't soak in as aforementioned so the roller leaves way too much. This is pretty easy overall :) Sometimes i have a lot of anxiety about results and its never as bad as i think ! wasted worrying ! smh