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Chlorinated Rubber Coatings

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#1 ·
I am quoting an inground pool right now that has 2 or possibly even 3 layers of chlorinated rubber paint/coating on it. My question to the experienced pool blasters is How much harder is that stuff to remove than the other coatings? I just blasted a pool about a month ago that had the other stuff so I'm trying to figure out possible time differences. Thanks in advance!!
 
#2 ·
Estimate help

You need to do a sample if you are not sure what your production rate and costs will be.Some pools can be blasted in a few hours others might take days.

If you estimate wrong the job could end up costing you money.

You might give a price by the 100 pound bag. I used to say$2500 for 30 bags should do it ,but if it takes more your gonna pay so much per bag (labor and material)extra.If the customer is good with this they are fair otherwise I wouldn't take the work.

Blasting a pool is tough work - you gotta be sure your going to make a profit.
 
#4 ·
I got sucked into a Chlorinated Rubber Coated pool job last year.

What a huge mistake! No matter what kind of media I tried it just bounced off of it like you can't imagine.

The stuff acts like a vinyl stencil... I hate this stuff!

I ended up blasting along the edges of the paint and in an angle so I was pealing it up along the edge... I priced this job at four days and it ended up taking us like two weeks plus.

Ever since then I've stayed away from pools. :sad:
 
#12 · (Edited)
I priced this job at four days and it ended up taking us like two weeks plus.
If this happens every other time your bids for identical jobs should be for ([10+] + 4)/2 = 7+ days.

If this happens every third time your bids should be ([10+] + 4 + 4)/3 = 6+ days.

If more people post bid hours vs. actual hours for this type of iffy job, blastoffinc can bid more accurately.
Patterns are easy to find with a spreadsheet.
 
#6 ·
I started with Olivine and then switched to recycled glass medium.

Looking back at it now I probably would have used GMA Garnet... but the client would not have paid for it.

Even then the Chlorinated Rubber Coating would have been hard to remove.

The stuff is like rubber.:thumbdown
 
#7 ·
What do you/your supplier consider medium glass? My medium is a 35-70. I did a pool a couple months ago with 20 mesh copper slag and it cut pretty well. I'm just wondering what it might do with this stuff. I know in the shop it's probably 2-3 times more productive than glass.
 
#11 ·
rubberized pool coating

Hey blastoffinc,
Pools are a hard one to estimate without first doing a test section. It may sound like a waste of time, but in the end could save your bacon.

You could try different abrasives during the test too..that way you can budget for abrasive used and man hours needed to complete ;)

Geo
 
#13 ·
Here is how I believe a "test" should be handled.

Some blasters misuse the test blast. It is not intended to be a tool to get a job. You get the job first or you will be just wasting tons of time and your labor. It's nothing for a customer to say yes to a free test. The question is are they ready to actually have a blast completed ( by you) if the price is right, or after you spend your time are they going to say, "yeah that sounds good, I might wake for next spring. I'll give you a call then.

This is how it should work. You give them a realistic price range. With an un known pool coating you might have to say $1,500 to $2,800 + or -. Now, when they called you they knew it wouldn't be free. They either have some cash to spend right now or they don't. Ask them if that is in their budget. If they say they can only go up to $2,000 that's something to work with. Here is the important part. If they are telling you the truth that there really is a job you don't need to do a test first. Just schedule the job to begin based on the estimated range that they just agreed to. You explain that when you get there the first bag or two is considered a test and that if you know you can stay in the price range you will simply continue and if you can't you will be willing to walk away with no charge to them. Once you are there they will want you to finish. If they don't schedule then they are not really able to spend the money and you would have wasted you time on a test or they may use your estimate after you spent your labor just to talk another guy down in his price.