Whoa there! Give it some time and the weatherstripping will loosen up a bit. All Andersen sliders act this way when new, the operating panel has to be shoved into the closed position and if you don't throw the latch it will pop open 1/2" or so. Does seem ridiculous but at least they don't leak. Make sure the latch side jamb is not bowed out in the middle, that will make it worse.

 

I've heard horror stories about Pella customer service/warranty work, can't say the same for Marvin or Andersen.

 

well hows this nice feature on an Andersen out swing and what happens when you open the door past 90 deg

 

well hows this nice feature on an andesen out swig and what happens when you open the door past 90 deg

is it me or does that wrapped casing look like its crowding the frame? We generally case with composite brickmold and I've never had a complaint

 

I've installed several hundred Andersen patio doors over the years and can't say I've ever seen one that wouldn't close from the outside snugly enough to seal, at least loosely. True, they don't latch from the outside, but they are patio doors, not entry doors.

As for their hinged patio doors, lifting the handle engages the 3-point locking system, which I think is a great feature.

Dollar for dollar, I feel Andersen is of good quality and really like the appearance, fit and finish.:thumbsup:

 

Dollar for dollar, I feel Andersen is of good quality and really like the appearance, fit and finish.:thumbsup:

agreed, except that perimeter sealant job around the glass - I've had several in which I cut out and replaced the sloppy fingerwork in the corners :shutup:

 

Yeah those Anderson doors must really suck. Maybe you should of gone with Andersen instead. Agree that not being able to install your own doors sucks but $1700.00 (depending on which series it is ) is a heck of a price. So you got a keyed lock for your door? I've always been very impressed with the lock system on the swingset doors. Really whats not to like?

 

well yea is about 1/4 past the door frame...where it should be

i didnt install the door

 

If you guys ever run across a hinged Andersen patio door, these are helpful.:thumbsup:

http://www.andersenwindows.com/serv...id&blobnocache=false&blobtable=MungoBlobs&blobwhere=1257138422449&ssbinary=true

 

even if its flush it still hit i had to make the trim sit about 3/8 below the outside edge of the frame...it would hit standard 1''j,and if you were using foam...that drip detail is too big or it needs to be cut at an angle

 

Tom, that would be eliminated if the hinge leaves projected out, even another 1/8 inch. Swung 180, that would put the door 1/4 inch further away from the jamb. The problem is, the further the hinge projection, the faster the opening gets to tight to allow freedom of swing. Those doors don't have bevels on the latch side, so they get tight quick. I'm sure R&D at Andersen are aware of this.:whistling

 

Well you could of possibly cost the homeowner the warrenty if theres ever a claim. The factory offers 4 colors thru core product. all your installs white? Why would you reglaze a door. I've seen the corner where the tip is dragged away. If it bothered you why not go over the corners a bit and leave it at that. Seriously you cut out the silicone and redid it?

 

oh i see what your sayin..now:thumbsup:

 

Well I'd say we're a long way from the original topic, but oh well. For those AnderSEN defenders out there, the fact that the door is designed to close over time is absurd. The previous Andersen Patio door closed (circa 1980). My Front door closes. My swinging Andersen door closes. Marvin, Pella, even frinkin' Mastercraft closes. It's a bad design.

 

Bad design, maybe, but more likely is a problem with the interlock weatherstrip on the bypass area of the door. The interlock screws could be installed improperly, causing a bind that will cause resistance when the door is pulled shut. I've also seen cases where the interlocks were damaged during shipping, causing them to be slightly mis-aligned.

I adjust every active panel on the doors I install and I've never walked away from one that didn't rest with full contact on the receiver jamb weatherstripping. The last 1/4 to 3/8 that the door pulls shut with the lock mechanism is what gives the door a good seal. If you've installed Therma-Tru doors, you are aware of the fact that the hinge side weather strip causes the door to spring open before the lockset is installed. It's the same principle. Without compression, there is not a positive seal.

 

I agree. I think Andersen windows and doors close to the bottom of the list when it comes to quality.

 

Lone, I really think Andersen has gotten sloppy over the last couple years.

I am converted to Marvins. No mor Andersen, unless I have to match.

One of the best windows, for the $$$ is the Marvin Integrity's.

 

Lone, I really think Andersen has gotten sloppy over the last couple years.

I am converted to Marvins. No mor Andersen, unless I have to match.

One of the best windows, for the $$$ is the Marvin Integrity's.

Availability is a big factor with windows, IMO. Almost every local dealer is an Andersen dealer. Of the homes built in the areas I work in, Andersen is the predominant choice. Maybe it's an architect thing, IDK.

I will say that with literally thousands of Andersen window installs under my belt, I can't recall ever having an issue, other than shipping damage, which was adressed promptly.

I had Andersen casements and awnings in the last house I built for myself, as well as a few quarter, half and arch tops and I had zero issues with them. Had a flex frame trapezoid that was remarkably true as well.

I haven't used Andersens in a new build for about 3 years, due to my current project, but used 200 series double hungs on my current home and have zero complaints again. For the money, I feel they are a good value.

 

i can agree wit dat:thumbsup:

 

I installed this one last week. I have installed many of the same ANDERSEN models. Never really have any problems with them. And no i did not stain the deck (and siding)! :no:

 

I installed this one last week. I have installed many of the same ANDERSEN models. Never really have any problems with them. And no i did not stain the deck (and siding)! :no:

JMO, but I think that's a damn nice looking door.:thumbsup:

 

My Grandad used to do Home Improvement and He's an big Anderson guy. He built a new house 7 years ago and it's all Anderson. I think it is demographics as well being that I'm in Iowa Pella dominates the market around here. I do like the hinge set-up on the Anderson swinging patio doors. Easy to adjust and install.

 

Reality check

I think the original post was from a frustrated person that did no research prior to complaining. I adjust and/or install Andersen patio doors routinely. The simple answer to the problem is to add a keyed cylinder to the slider. The lock systems Andersen uses work quite well, and even better when installed correctly. Contractors like the poster keep me busy with service calls, so no problem on my end.

 

I think the original post was from a frustrated person that did no research prior to complaining. I adjust and/or install Andersen patio doors routinely. The simple answer to the problem is to add a keyed cylinder to the slider. The lock systems Andersen uses work quite well, and even better when installed correctly. Contractors like the poster keep me busy with service calls, so no problem on my end.

Actually, the cause of the bounce back is the bulb weatherstrip on the interlock. If you remove the operating panel, cut the bulb and the problem will be solved. It will not affect the factory warranty either.

 

Wow, rehashing an old thread here that included me being called out for reglazing an Andersen Frenchwood

Anyway, that bead of sealant around the perimeter glass no longer exists in Andersen's design ( cause it looked like chit, that's why) so at least that's an improvement and one less thing to deal with.

Original poster had a point here with closing. The last two I did would not seal from the exterior without throwing the lock - stupid if you ask me,...just incorporate a slightly larger pocket please so we'll stop complaining

Other than that, I actually like the door.

 

Wow, rehashing an old thread here that included me being called out for reglazing an Andersen Frenchwood

Anyway, that bead of sealant around the perimeter glass no longer exists in Andersen's design ( cause it looked like chit, that's why) so at least that's an improvement and one less thing to deal with.

Original poster had a point here with closing. The last two I did would not seal from the exterior without throwing the lock - stupid if you ask me,...just incorporate a slightly larger pocket please so we'll stop complaining

Other than that, I actually like the door.

You know, you don't have to defend yourself. People will believe whatever they want. Some find the skill of other tradesmen unbelievable. What can you do about that? Just take it as a compliment and move on.

Great work Dave, as always.

 

I got 6 posts in and realized this thread was 4 years old...... :thumbsup:

 

I have a question

Not sure how well known Anderson patio doors are across the country but I'd like to make everyone know how AWFUL they are.

Living in MN in the flight path of Minneapolis airport, the Metropolitan Airport Commission (MAC) gives money for sound improvements (windows, doors, insulation, etc). I chose a new front door, swinging patio door, and sliding patio door. The work is contracted through Renewal by Anderson, so, even as a contractor, I was stuck having them install Anderson products.

The front door was Therma-Tru and no issues there. The swinging patio door is Anderson and other than their stupid locking system (hold handle up to lock door) it is fine as well.

The sliding patio door is the issue. It glides beautifully. It looks great.
It cannot be closed shut from the outside. That's right. The door will lock tightly with the latch ONLY from the inside. When exiting the door to the outside, the best you can do is slide it within 3/4" closed. I've had several conversations with a supervisor and have had Anderson service rep come out as well. The verdict- "It is designed to lock tight with the latch from inside". Absolute ridiculous. The value for the installation and the door was $1700. I could have gotten a $500 Home Depot special that at least closes.

I've installed Marvin, Pella, and Anderson. Anderson is by far the worst designed product. Wouldn't recommend Anderson to anyone.[/QUOTE


I Just read an article titled BUILDER® magazine’s 2014 Brand Use Study. This is what it said:

Andersen patio doors topped the list claiming the number one position in the Doors: Patio category for superior quality, the brand used most in the last two years and the most used brand. Respondents to the survey also cited Andersen as the window and patio door brand they are most familiar with, continuing the company’s legacy as the most recognized wood and clad-wood window and patio door brand among builders. I also just read that Andersen Corporation was awarded the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) 2013 and 2012 ENERGY STAR® Sustained Excellence Award. Sustained Excellence Awards are given only to organizations that have been named ENERGY STAR Partner of the Year for three or more consecutive years. I guess Award winners are selected from more than 20,000 organizations that participate in the ENERGY STAR program.

 

Andersen Permashield Patio Door pretty good at keeping the water out though.

 

Look at all of the structure there. I'd been flipping some Berkley Gulp Lizards off that deck trying to get a 5 lb. largemouth.:laughing:

 

Shouldn't the pump be on the other side of the door :laughing:

That's a great pic you got there.

 

They should make a commercial and put their door in the bottom of a row boat!

 

that must have been unnerving seeing the water just sit there.