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Amateur to frame up tiny house

8.7K views 32 replies 7 participants last post by  Seven-Delta-FortyOne  
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Couple months ago I did a thread up in the Architecture and Design section at this forum. It presented a 12'x16'8" shack with sleep loft, half bath, and space for food prep, eating, and lounging.

I came to it via a family member that wants something like it for housing an extra field hand on his farm each summer.

The prototype was framed all in 4x redwood resawn from reclaimed Bay Area CA industrial salvage. We decided to use same-sized timbers for the roof and loft structures, but frame the walls in 2x4 SPF from the local yard.

I'm not the builder, for this. I'm just the drafter, and I'm a couple thousand miles away from the site.

Needing to present an amateur builder with enough info to frame this thing up, I gave a cut list for all the timber he'll get from a nearby sawmill, and dimensioned plans for building. His windows and doors are coming from salvage and so opening sizes may change, so info is enough to build.
 

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This might help.

The GSL for the site is 105 psf.

Rafters are 3.5 x 6 but those that sit atop the gables are fatter so they overhang, which lets the sheathing and siding trim to them.

Siding is supposed to be white pine brainstorm and I hope he shingle-miters the corners like I told him to. Done well it really looks cool.

The rustic old camps in the area have buildings done that way.
 

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#28 ·
Oh I see ,, in the CAD drawing looks like 4x6 rafters?? Then that will not work. I bet there will be no 4x rafters or he will put the first one on the inside of the wall and nail the wall to it. In any case the rafter will not sit on the wall.
 
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That mini home is built heaver and better than most of the homes over here. It would short you guys out in what most of the people live in over here. The home I'm in now was built in the 50s and it's as most are a single wall home. The wall is Âľ" thick:whistling so yea if I put a 1" nail in to hang something it will pop out the outside of the house. The homes sit on blocks that just sit on the ground, called tofu blocks. The vertical T&G boards you see on the inside are the same ones you will see on the outside Âľ" thick. We are doubling this home up for insulating and drywall. So we have 90 to 100 year old homes that are single wall.:blink:
 

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I took a couple of screenshots from the video of the prototype shack in Hawaii being built, so you can see what captured the imagination of the "amateur" that will build this himself.

He's a farmer with plenty of smarts, the right tools, experience fixing and remodeling his 120-year-old barns and sheds, and some good help.

The prototype in Hawaii got built with its "studs" being redwood 4x4s, rebated so as to be able to nail in the inside "finish" of "reclaimed lumber" and permit a chase for mechanicals. One of the pics shows that.

The interior shot looking at the main floor space is shot from the food prep area. The steep winder stair-ladder to the sleep loft starts on the right in that pic.

The tiny half-bath (toilet and small sink) is under that stair-ladder. I guess they must have an outdoor shower, which seems right for a beach shack.
 

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#12 ·
Needing to present an amateur builder with enough info to frame this thing up
Define amateur? A builder who is contracting framing out or builder who is his won carpenter.

How much of a clue does he have about carpentry? You got the mad skills (app) to figure dimensions for all the pieces - Shop drawings. Gives you maximum control over how your drawings are built - That's what architectural designers do right?
 
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It drives me nuts when people ask to reuse lumber from a stack by the garage. Or if they can find some used stuff for cheaper.

I think there should be a law that any hgtv show should have to put in a 15 second disclaimer screen during the middle if the segment showing some reclaimed wood ... that the time took twice as long as new to build and twice as expensive........why not. We have to have warning labels for everything else.
 
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Student? No, I am so far out of school it's all dim memories.

For you Hawaii people, you should try to find this thing, the prototype, built on some lot there near a beach. Do a web search for "Tiny House Beach Shack" and you can find the website that shows videos of it going up.

Here is another one of mine, a 3D framing model, and in this one, take a tour and note the color-highlighted LVLs and color-highlighted stud clusters where load paths are being handled.

https://sketchfab.com/models/51cd5564c3294f4683b07134c1fa3155

This Sketchfab app is pretty cool.
 
#7 ·
My son is over in Tokyo working for Kengo Kuma on Japan's Olympic stadium for this summer time break from school. He's in grad school near Boston.
If you so far out of school you can't remember it why you here asking about your drawings:blink: this stuff should be like peeing in the night to you:blink: or do you still miss:whistling
 
#10 ·
That's pretty cool. If I where doing it for me. I would eliminate the French doors on front and back. The other door very rarely gets used unless moving something in or out. And with two sets across the front wall. Well it kooks neat. And makes for great pictures. After that the interior suffers. You can block it with a chair or couch but that looks poor. Not alot of dancing space inside so plot out the idea of where furniture goes. You want to live in it right? (Or someone) . I would rather have one door off to side. And a bank of Windows. Also on outside you usually put chairs with back against wall of house with a small deck like that. So under the windows would work good again. If there where two French doors. You would be fighting chair space with walk way. Not sure about the skylight in the loft. Think it would work better over the great room.

But all in all it does look like a great set up.

If your just designing it's not up to you to teach the amateur how to build. But as much as possible to detail things like shear wall or hold downs and such. After that then send them a copy of what ever book on how to frame a home.

You can bring a horse to water but..........