we are doing a roofing job and I noticed the siders did a full tear off. However, there is no plywood or sheathing,just fiberglass between studs then of course Sheetrock on interior. They are nailing siding directly into studs and I asked the guy about it. He said since he's using Insulated siding it's ok..is this true. I souls still worry the insulated siding could still warp due to the voids.
Vinyl siding over studs, no sheathing
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we are doing a roofing job and I noticed the siders did a full tear off. However, there is no plywood or sheathing,just fiberglass between studs then of course Sheetrock on interior. They are nailing siding directly into studs and I asked the guy about it. He said since he's using Insulated siding it's ok..is this true. I souls still worry the insulated siding could still warp due to the voids.
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siding warping is going to be the least of that houses problems,call the building dept and turn the nitwit in
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Hope you're not up on the roof
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Like Tom says.... who cares about the warping. What about all of the water that's going to get behind that vinyl siding. What's going to keep it out of the fiberglass insulation and stud cavities? Absolutely nothing.
Of course, on the bright side.... the homeowner won't notice the small leak you leave around the chimney flashing because their inside walls and baseboards are gonna be soaking wet and covered in mold.
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my impression was this was a full rip and this house originally had sheathing ,a continuous wrb is now required by code everywhere i believe and i don't think non taped foam qualifies
never mind the structural issues if the house has no other bracing
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You don't have to "turn him in", if there are any inspectors on the job at all, they should see it. You might ask teh HO about it as well...
As others have posted, I'd be really worried about the structural integrity of the building, especially if I'm up on the roof. Sheathing adds a huge amount of rigidity to the structure, and sorry, but vinyl siding doesn't.
I can see someone bumping the building with a pickup truck, and having it fall like a house of cards. Never mind a strong breeze.
As others have posted, I'd be really worried about the structural integrity of the building, especially if I'm up on the roof. Sheathing adds a huge amount of rigidity to the structure, and sorry, but vinyl siding doesn't.
I can see someone bumping the building with a pickup truck, and having it fall like a house of cards. Never mind a strong breeze.
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what is your major malfunction
you didn't say anything about tyvek maybe that guy should be watching you:whistling
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That would be awesome! :thumbup:
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It would be a judgment call, but if I saw no wind bracing or shear panels on the corners, I'd be making a call.
It's not my personality to watch someone destroy the structural integrity of a building and keep my mouth shut.:no:
What was removed from the building?
It's not my personality to watch someone destroy the structural integrity of a building and keep my mouth shut.:no:
What was removed from the building?
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I got no sheeting under my siding.
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What about knee bracing? Clapboard siding?
I've seen a lot of balloon framed houses with no sheathing boards, but full 1/2" claps, T&G wainscot for interior finish....and bracing in the corners.
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I only got into one corner of the house so far and I did not see any bracing.
It has 1/2" claps on it though.
It has the ledgers, interior floor joist and ceilings, let into the framing and everything is notched together.
I think there are like 12 nails holding all the framing together.
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Yeah, some amazing stuff in those old homes. I think they used to count siding as structural in those days.:laughing:
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i have seen houses with no sheathing[old] or non structural sheathing[new]and the foam could absolutely be structural enough to support the siding,as long as adequate bracing is done it really doesn't matter
my main concern was a wrb covered drainage plane,which i was misled into thinking wasn't there:whistling
my main concern was a wrb covered drainage plane,which i was misled into thinking wasn't there:whistling
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Man, I missed this post before. He ripped the T-111 and sided over bare studs? I'd make that call.
You'll have more guilt if that house blows over in the middle of the night than you will turning in that criminal.
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