There is a fine line here between a proffesional looking for information, an unqualified person looking for information on a job he should not be doing, and a homeowner looking to get around paying a pro and doing there own work. Unfortunately, sometimes that line gets blurred and errors are made, we are human after all. G
You all started somewhere too...
There was a recent posting here under the 'Remodeling' forum where the poster MGNICE15 requested information about installing a radiant heating system on top of a plywood subfloor where the plywood meets the metal door jam.
He was basically berated and treated as though he was something less than he was. Some even commented on his spelling errors and suggested schooling. (Like we all don't know a contractor with spelling issues.)
Instead of asking about the system he was to install, (god forbid there's a possibilty you might learn something from someone with spelling issues) you all ASSumed he didn't know what he was talking about when he said he was installing 'on top of the subfloor'. You all ASSumed he was talking about the type of radiant systems that you understand, instead of the ones that you don't and blew him off.
Even the moderator ASSumed the poster didn't know what he was talking about and closed the posting directing the poster to go to the DIY forum to ask his questions there.
MGNICE15 has nothing to apogize for, you all do!
He was basically berated and treated as though he was something less than he was. Some even commented on his spelling errors and suggested schooling. (Like we all don't know a contractor with spelling issues.)
Instead of asking about the system he was to install, (god forbid there's a possibilty you might learn something from someone with spelling issues) you all ASSumed he didn't know what he was talking about when he said he was installing 'on top of the subfloor'. You all ASSumed he was talking about the type of radiant systems that you understand, instead of the ones that you don't and blew him off.
Even the moderator ASSumed the poster didn't know what he was talking about and closed the posting directing the poster to go to the DIY forum to ask his questions there.
MGNICE15 has nothing to apogize for, you all do!
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You are right...MGNICE15 has nothing to apogize for, you all do!
I'm sorry he didn't come back to explain what he was talking about.
BTW, it's APOLOGIZE...not apogize....and he never came back ~ a one hit wonder - so why are you saying he has nothing to apogize for, he never did apogize
Just keeping it real! :thumbsup:
1. That thread was over a week ago. You've been stewing about that post for that long?
2. His trade is listed as radiant heating. That means he should really know what he's talking about and not asking questions about what he should already know.
3. This is a professionals forum, not a homeowners forum to ask professionals. The DIY site is where the homeowners go to ask pros and that is what the administrator of this site would like us to do, direct them to the DIY site.
4. I read that thread. He was spared :laughing:
2. His trade is listed as radiant heating. That means he should really know what he's talking about and not asking questions about what he should already know.
3. This is a professionals forum, not a homeowners forum to ask professionals. The DIY site is where the homeowners go to ask pros and that is what the administrator of this site would like us to do, direct them to the DIY site.
4. I read that thread. He was spared :laughing:
You seem to have assumed a lot
of information that the poster didn't
see fit to include in his question.
A well though out question is usually
more warmly received than a vague
and poorly worded (or spelled) one.
If you understood him, why not
help him out yourself?
of information that the poster didn't
see fit to include in his question.
A well though out question is usually
more warmly received than a vague
and poorly worded (or spelled) one.
If you understood him, why not
help him out yourself?
Yeah we all started somewhere, but we would not have gotten anywhere if we came to the internet and relied on someone else to solve our problems. Most here work or have worked with experienced people for years to learn what they know. To take money from a customer without knowing how to do the work is unprofessional and downright reckless.
Again, you ASSume he's a homeowner. I'm the contractor who reffered that contractor to this contractor's site to get the answer to his problem. I followed up with him to check on the progress of his project and he told me how he was just blown away by the responses.1. That thread was over a week ago. You've been stewing about that post for that long?
2. His trade is listed as radiant heating. That means he should really know what he's talking about and not asking questions about what he should already know.
3. This is a professionals forum, not a homeowners forum to ask professionals. The DIY site is where the homeowners go to ask pros and that is what the administrator of this site would like us to do, direct them to the DIY site.
4. I read that thread. He was spared :laughing:
If he didn't introduce himself,Again, you ASSume he's a homeowner. I'm the contractor who reffered that contractor to this contractor's site to get the answer to his problem. I followed up with him to check on the progress of his project and he told me how he was just blown away by the responses.
how would anyone know anything
about him, except that he asked
impossibly vague questions and
never followed up?
... he told me how he was just blown away by the responses.
He should have come back and thanked us :thumbsup:
a simple introduction would have stopped the assumptions dead in their tracks. Then let your second post be a cryptic thrashing of the english language.
Point well made.There is a fine line here between a proffesional looking for information, an unqualified person looking for information on a job he should not be doing, and a homeowner looking to get around paying a pro and doing there own work. Unfortunately, sometimes that line gets blurred and errors are made, we are human after all. G
Tell him to make another new nick, come back introduce, then wait until 10+ posts then can ask Qs if he don't mind? :thumbsup:
Show me where I stated he was a homeowner. You can't. Because you ASSumed.Again, you ASSume he's a homeowner. I'm the contractor who reffered that contractor to this contractor's site to get the answer to his problem. I followed up with him to check on the progress of his project and he told me how he was just blown away by the responses.
Why didn't you answer his question?
:blink:1. That thread was over a week ago. You've been stewing about that post for that long?
1. That thread was over a week ago. You've been stewing about that post for that long?
2. His trade is listed as radiant heating. That means he should really know what he's talking about and not asking questions about what he should already know.
3. This is a professionals forum, not a homeowners forum to ask professionals. The DIY site is where the homeowners go to ask pros and that is what the administrator of this site would like us to do, direct them to the DIY site.
4. I read that thread. He was spared :laughing:
In his defense, this statement is placing a pretty clear accusation of Homeowner title on the guy.Show me where I stated he was a homeowner. You can't. Because you ASSumed.
Why didn't you answer his question?
I think that could be labeled as an assumption but not a huge stretch.
So everyone knows, this is what
we were given to work with.....
" mgnice15
Registered User
Trade: radiant heating
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1
help with a sub-floor
i am installing a radiant heating system on the top of a sub floor! the constuction includes insolation(1/2 inch) on the concrete slab, then a free floating tongue and groove decking( 3/4). my questions is what do i do about where the subfloor plywood meets the exterior metal door and jam area?
on top of the decking is the heating element, carpet pad and carpet. any advise would be great, thanks--matt-- "
http://www.contractortalk.com/f18/help-sub-floor-66077/
we were given to work with.....
" mgnice15
Registered User
Trade: radiant heating
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1
help with a sub-floor
i am installing a radiant heating system on the top of a sub floor! the constuction includes insolation(1/2 inch) on the concrete slab, then a free floating tongue and groove decking( 3/4). my questions is what do i do about where the subfloor plywood meets the exterior metal door and jam area?
on top of the decking is the heating element, carpet pad and carpet. any advise would be great, thanks--matt-- "
http://www.contractortalk.com/f18/help-sub-floor-66077/
My favorite part:
No way! [My response in the original thread]
It seemed so thrilling to me, I added an exclamation point too.
Would a pro actually get that excited?
I know I was ecstatic when the plumbing I DIY'ed didn't flood my house....but then again, I'm not a plumber.
I don't get a thrill out of lights going on/off in my house without setting the damn place on fire...but then again, I am electrician.
i am installing a radiant heating system on the top of a sub floor!
No way! [My response in the original thread]
It seemed so thrilling to me, I added an exclamation point too.
Would a pro actually get that excited?
I know I was ecstatic when the plumbing I DIY'ed didn't flood my house....but then again, I'm not a plumber.
I don't get a thrill out of lights going on/off in my house without setting the damn place on fire...but then again, I am electrician.
I believe that thread was closed by a mod. Since mods have final say as to what is posted thats the end of the story.
Now if the OP was to come in and properly introduce himself/herself and accumulate some postings on the board then he may be answered in a different fashion. JMO
Now if the OP was to come in and properly introduce himself/herself and accumulate some postings on the board then he may be answered in a different fashion. JMO
We were duped. It's like candid camera except this is the interweb-thingy.
The vice were here!!
The vice were here!!
I won't assume anything here. If that guy had cut his teeth in Jersey, he would not have even flinched at the responses. Those replies would have been followed with "shove that up your a$$ for future reference":laughing:
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