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In their utopia world it comes from solar or PV panels.

What happens in California during a rolling blackout? Do you have to wait to charge your car if you are on the road and need to get somewhere?
 

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What happens in California during a rolling blackout? Do you have to wait to charge your car if you are on the road and need to get somewhere?
Comon man get real!!!! You'd need to carry a bike thingy with you that you could plug into the crank the peddles to charge it up.
 

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What happens in California during a rolling blackout? Do you have to wait to charge your car if you are on the road and need to get somewhere?
I guess I have to wait just like like you would, unless their is some illegal immigrant working a hand pump to get your fuel up out of the tank in the ground.
 

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83% of people with an EV, have solar on their roofs. Many added the panels after they bought their vehicles.
 

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Of course. And it will be more than necessary and will be siphoned off into other pet projects and they will claim the tax is insufficient.
 

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Our state wants to implement a miles tax.

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We have a lot of EVs here. it's really hard to drive over 150 miles in a day. Those fancy Teslas are everywhere.
 

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Our state wants to implement a miles tax.

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I'll bet after they do, you will be paying 2-4x as much as you were paying at the pump tax.
 

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Pump tax will probably go up to with the excuse , not as many people are using fuel so need to raise it to pay for the road.
 

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We pay the pump tax and our registration goes by the weight of the auto. My work van cost over 500$ a year in registration fee. Other wise known as the vehicle tax.
 

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Coal powered plant probably.
Coal is on the way out. Not just because there's more renewable power now, but because natural gas got cheap.
Also, depends on where you live. TVA, Hoover Dam, most of the PNW are all hydro which is dirt cheap and "green" though that was an afterthought when it was built.
 

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That car is pretty fugly. It looks like the designers of the Escape got in a fight with the Tesla designers and they both lost.
But since I was on the website, did you see that they're coming out with an Electric Transit? 126 mile range. Yeah, "Here in Texamontanapalachia that's the distance to my neighbor" but for most of us it's plenty.
 

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We have a lot of EVs here. it's really hard to drive over 150 miles in a day. Those fancy Teslas are everywhere.
Tesla's around here are almost a dime a dozen. Then I found out there is a "dealership", if you can call it that, right in Lawrenceville, NJ.
I have had customers that owned them and they run from extreme right to extreme left. Go figure.
 

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Coal is on the way out. Not just because there's more renewable power now, but because natural gas got cheap.
Also, depends on where you live. TVA, Hoover Dam, most of the PNW are all hydro which is dirt cheap and "green" though that was an afterthought when it was built.
I was being facetious.

Lighten up Francis
 

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Coal is on the way out. Not just because there's more renewable power now, but because natural gas got cheap.
Also, depends on where you live. TVA, Hoover Dam, most of the PNW are all hydro which is dirt cheap and "green" though that was an afterthought when it was built.
Somebody better tell other countries. Building coal plants as fast as they can.

Reports of the ‘death’ of coal have been greatly exaggerated, with the economic powerhouses of Asia – China, Japan and India – building new plants hand over fist.

The pattern across Asia is unmistakable; unreliable wind and solar have been snubbed in favour of coal-fired power plants, with new nuclear plants running a close second.

Don Dears takes a look at the resurgence of coal as the power source of choice in any country serious about delivering reliable and affordable electricity to businesses and households.
 

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only going up

STATEJUNE 2018JUNE 2017MOVEMENTCHANGE (%)
Alabama12.41¢ / kWh12.79¢ / kWhDOWN-2.971 %
Alaska22.54¢ / kWh22.14¢ / kWhUP1.806 %
Arizona13.16¢ / kWh12.65¢ / kWhUP4.031 %
Arkansas9.99¢ / kWh10.73¢ / kWhDOWN-6.896 %
California19.90¢ / kWh19.39¢ / kWhUP2.630 %
Colorado12.28¢ / kWh12.75¢ / kWhDOWN-3.686 %
Connecticut21.62¢ / kWh20.47¢ / kWhUP5.617 %
DC13.21¢ / kWh13.40¢ / kWhDOWN-1.417 %
Delaware12.05¢ / kWh12.59¢ / kWhDOWN-4.289 %
Florida11.37¢ / kWh12.02¢ / kWhDOWN-5.407 %
Georgia12.26¢ / kWh12.53¢ / kWhDOWN-2.154 %
Hawaii32.76¢ / kWh30.45¢ / kWhUP7.586 %
Idaho10.58¢ / kWh11.42¢ / kWhDOWN-7.355 %
Illinois12.56¢ / kWh12.95¢ / kWhDOWN-3.011 %
Indiana12.02¢ / kWh12.05¢ / kWhDOWN-0.248 %
Iowa13.81¢ / kWh13.92¢ / kWhDOWN-0.790 %
Kansas11.56¢ / kWh13.56¢ / kWhDOWN-14.74 %
Kentucky10.56¢ / kWh10.68¢ / kWhDOWN-1.123 %
Louisiana9.37¢ / kWh10.19¢ / kWhDOWN-8.047 %
Maine16.16¢ / kWh16.17¢ / kWhDOWN-0.061 %
Maryland13.92¢ / kWh14.22¢ / kWhDOWN-2.109 %
Massachusetts21.11¢ / kWh18.56¢ / kWhUP13.73 %
Michigan16.07¢ / kWh15.86¢ / kWhUP1.324 %
Minnesota14.09¢ / kWh13.96¢ / kWhUP0.931 %
Mississippi11.55¢ / kWh11.40¢ / kWhUP1.315 %
Missouri13.23¢ / kWh13.25¢ / kWhDOWN-0.150 %
Montana11.85¢ / kWh11.73¢ / kWhUP1.023 %
Nebraska11.31¢ / kWh12.06¢ / kWhDOWN-6.218 %
Nevada11.67¢ / kWh11.64¢ / kWhUP0.257 %
New Hampshire19.63¢ / kWh19.30¢ / kWhUP1.709 %
New Jersey15.64¢ / kWh15.96¢ / kWhDOWN-2.005 %
New Mexico13.37¢ / kWh13.41¢ / kWhDOWN-0.298 %
New York19.30¢ / kWh18.76¢ / kWhUP2.878 %
North Carolina11.24¢ / kWh11.07¢ / kWhUP1.535 %
North Dakota12.07¢ / kWh12.34¢ / kWhDOWN-2.188 %
Ohio12.64¢ / kWh12.67¢ / kWhDOWN-0.236 %
Oklahoma10.72¢ / kWh10.53¢ / kWhUP1.804 %
Oregon11.02¢ / kWh10.97¢ / kWhUP0.455 %
Pennsylvania14.38¢ / kWh14.52¢ / kWhDOWN-0.964 %
Rhode Island18.64¢ / kWh16.65¢ / kWhUP11.95 %
South Carolina12.91¢ / kWh13.07¢ / kWhDOWN-1.224 %
South Dakota12.39¢ / kWh12.57¢ / kWhDOWN-1.431 %
Tennessee10.79¢ / kWh10.93¢ / kWhDOWN-1.280 %
Texas11.36¢ / kWh11.15¢ / kWhUP1.883 %
Utah10.63¢ / kWh11.48¢ / kWhDOWN-7.404 %
Vermont18.50¢ / kWh18.02¢ / kWhUP2.663 %
Virginia12.40¢ / kWh11.91¢ / kWhUP4.114 %
Washington9.79¢ / kWh9.95¢ / kWhDOWN-1.608 %
West Virginia11.57¢ / kWh11.69¢ / kWhDOWN-1.026 %
Wisconsin14.28¢ / kWh15.05¢ / kWhDOWN-5.116 %
Wyoming12.30¢ / kWh12.21¢ / kWhUP0.737 %
Trends & Observations from State Data
 

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What are those rates based on?
I only pay a little over 12cents.
 
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