so as it goes.. i live in mn, prices are **** for labor. we have a handful of companies undercutting everyone paying there labor probably .08 or less for tape an .08 for hang..
i really only subcontract and the 'fair' wage i guess is .12 - .15 for labor, no extras what so ever.. im sure non of you are stranger to this if you sub work. basically companies hire illegals through the loop hole of nievtay i.e. hireing a legal sub who then deals his work to illegal laborors for cheap.. thus washing the hands of the main contractor of legal issues.
i have been collecting opinions from other subs in different fields.. im going to create a petition to forward to my congressman..
anyway im writing in hopes to get some piece of mind, even though nothing will happen im sure..
here is what i wrote so far, any help/corrections to the problem and solution to the problem would be great..
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To whom this may concern.
As a drywall sub contractor wages are seeing all time lows. larger drywall contractors and builders are collectively maximizing there profit margins by lowering labor wages below market rates seen in the early 90s.
we are givin the excuse 'its because of the economy' all to often which is ridiculous.. the real issue is with drywall contractors bulk bidding jobs by under cutting other contractors significantly.. they way they are doing this is by hiring illegal immigrants through a loop hole of sorts..
basically larger contractors hire a legal sub contractor who then dole out the work to illegal laborors at low rates so they can profit off there backs.. that way they make tiny profits in bulk because they are stealing the work from other companies. this way the larger contractor washes their hands of any legal issues with hiring undocumented workers even though they know they are.
this has been going on now forever. but now more so then ever has it really effected the tax paying sub contractors with living expenses in this state.. this issue needs to be dealt with once and for all. i have collected opinions from many contractors in different fields who are dealing with the same issues.. i am starting a petition for some kind of immigration reform like the one oklahoma passed in 08..
the problem could be dealt with as easily as imposing fines to the builder/remodling company for having any undocumented worker on their job site. that way the it would domino down to the drywall/painting/mason/brick contractors thus forcing them to get rid of subcontractors that hire illegals..
all this being said i discriminate against no one.. i support fare competition.. but i can no longer compete with individuals who work for below market rates and pay zero living expenses, insurance expenses, licensing, incorp expenses etc. in this state.
i briefly summarized the best i could the way things are going and they way to deal with these issues but i can elaborate more if needed.. i would just like some kind of piece of mind that our politicians are going stop laying an egg with this issue and deal with it firmly because tradesman like me are getting raked over the coals and it has to stop.. "
im sure it sounds likes **** but i am horrible with trying to formulate my opinion on paper. it always sounds better in my head.. like i said any help would be cool.. thanks.
i really only subcontract and the 'fair' wage i guess is .12 - .15 for labor, no extras what so ever.. im sure non of you are stranger to this if you sub work. basically companies hire illegals through the loop hole of nievtay i.e. hireing a legal sub who then deals his work to illegal laborors for cheap.. thus washing the hands of the main contractor of legal issues.
i have been collecting opinions from other subs in different fields.. im going to create a petition to forward to my congressman..
anyway im writing in hopes to get some piece of mind, even though nothing will happen im sure..
here is what i wrote so far, any help/corrections to the problem and solution to the problem would be great..
""
To whom this may concern.
As a drywall sub contractor wages are seeing all time lows. larger drywall contractors and builders are collectively maximizing there profit margins by lowering labor wages below market rates seen in the early 90s.
we are givin the excuse 'its because of the economy' all to often which is ridiculous.. the real issue is with drywall contractors bulk bidding jobs by under cutting other contractors significantly.. they way they are doing this is by hiring illegal immigrants through a loop hole of sorts..
basically larger contractors hire a legal sub contractor who then dole out the work to illegal laborors at low rates so they can profit off there backs.. that way they make tiny profits in bulk because they are stealing the work from other companies. this way the larger contractor washes their hands of any legal issues with hiring undocumented workers even though they know they are.
this has been going on now forever. but now more so then ever has it really effected the tax paying sub contractors with living expenses in this state.. this issue needs to be dealt with once and for all. i have collected opinions from many contractors in different fields who are dealing with the same issues.. i am starting a petition for some kind of immigration reform like the one oklahoma passed in 08..
the problem could be dealt with as easily as imposing fines to the builder/remodling company for having any undocumented worker on their job site. that way the it would domino down to the drywall/painting/mason/brick contractors thus forcing them to get rid of subcontractors that hire illegals..
all this being said i discriminate against no one.. i support fare competition.. but i can no longer compete with individuals who work for below market rates and pay zero living expenses, insurance expenses, licensing, incorp expenses etc. in this state.
i briefly summarized the best i could the way things are going and they way to deal with these issues but i can elaborate more if needed.. i would just like some kind of piece of mind that our politicians are going stop laying an egg with this issue and deal with it firmly because tradesman like me are getting raked over the coals and it has to stop.. "
im sure it sounds likes **** but i am horrible with trying to formulate my opinion on paper. it always sounds better in my head.. like i said any help would be cool.. thanks.