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Friend of mine just got back from Dubai. According to him they are desperate for quality craftsman. They paid him a years wages for 6 weeks of work (6/10s). They also put him up in a quality hotel, provided all tools, paid for airfare and $50/day food allowance.

He was part of a 5 man crew forming and pouring monolithic slabs. Outside of the limited availability of alcohol he loved it. Going back next month for another 6 weeks.

Given the slow down here in NY I am really thinking about doing this. So I put this question out there. Would you take a deal like this?
 

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Myself? No. I have a wife and two young children and I only get to watch them grow up once. The first year I was married I was out of town for five months, I've since learned you don't get that time back.

If I was single though, I wouldn't think twice. It could be a good experience.
 

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I would totally jump on it. i am married now so it would definately be hard and in actual i probably would not go. like BriansZ stated you never get that time back. i am in the military so i have been gone a few times not long but you do miss out on stuff. if you are single definately jump on it plus you are getting paid to see another part of the world. would you be working for the military or would you be working for some free lance company?
 

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I'm 44 and going to make this business my legacy,I only stopped traveling 5 years ago.I'm tired of building businesses and re-locating ,so all my efforts are concentrated in this business ,and somewhere down the road I will sell it and retire from the business.If I were younger I would certainly be interested in a years wage for a few months labor.Go see the world,have some fun,and give em' hell!:thumbsup:
 

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I would consider working overseas, but not in Dubai. There's been some horror stories from there recently, they are completely paranoid about drugs, one guy recently got thrown in prison when they found a tiny bit of canabis on the sole of his shoe. You can get done for codeine as well.

John
 

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I would work overseas if I knew the length of time ans housing conditions in advance.

I traveled in 37 countries (India, Bangladseh, Russia, Kasakstan, China, Viet Nam, including Dubai), before I worked in LA and MS for 5 months after Katrina . That was worse than foreign countries.- No decent food, housing, shopping, etc.

Spent a month in LA in a motel heavily occupied by people paid by FEMA (that needed assistance immediately for not working). Because they were not working, they partied all day and night in the parking lot and grilled on the balconies/walkways. You would not find this is Dubai or any civilized area. No Burger Kings, Shoneys, etc. open. One block lines at McDonalds that closed at 7:00PM. Luckily, I worked for the government and finally got access finding food/eating at a refugee center.

Stayed (2 months after Katrina) in a Holiday Inn on the 3rd floor - hotel office on the second floor - nothing on the first floor - no elevator - no telephone - clean rooms weekly, but we had wireless internet! After 2 weeks, I finally found a better spot, but only one store for replacement clothes within 20 miles, but the Casino was open.

I could not travel home because we worked 6 or 7 day weeks, so I could have been on the other side of the world.

If I knew where I was going and what the conditions were, I would gladly go for something as short as 2 or 3 months. If you are skilled and there is a need, you can get good information on the time and conditions. - I am married, no children at home, my wife works and I enjoy the activity (and money).

Travel and working is not bad if you know the duration and what to expect.
 

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Thanks for the input. Its a tough decision with a baby at home.

Pay is between 8-10k per week. Hotels are nice, business class places. $250 a night if you book it yourself.

Not happy about leaving the family, but I gotta earn.
 

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8-10K X 4 weeks = 32K to 40K per month, or at leat 380K up to 480K per year (if overtime added) before tax, but Fed will spare your tax for building the war-torn countries. :thumbsup::jester: Now, I'm super-richie!!.... $$ are all mine, mine, mine....

When money power speaks, people will listen !!! :thumbup:
 

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Don't make up your mind without researching!

The U.S. is not really as civilized as you think.

If you are traveling and working, someone is footing the bill and will give you orientation on the area, customs and what to avoid because they have a responsibility and want to protect their investment. A Chamber of Commerce in the U.S. will not do this.

The middle east image is warped by the newscasters that are forced to create news and re-hash it. I was in more danger in Russia, but at least we had bodyguards in the sauna with AK47s.

Once you get where you are going it is easy to find you the local pitfalls who not to listen to. On my first trip to cleveland, I was mugged 1/2 block from the hotel because I did not have the sense to ask anyone the simple questions. After a while you will here all the the exagerated stories, but don't totally forget them.

If you have good living conditions, food, cable TV (ESPN, CNN, BBC, HBO, etc.), the risks ares up to you since no one will come looking for you. If you want excitement, you could always work on a crab boat off the Allutians near Alaska and be on T.V.
 

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Why do they want to hire thick-headed Ami's when they could get an unlimited supply of Paki's, Indians, Turks, Chinese, ad naseum, probably all with masters degrees in engineering to do this work?

Why do people hesitate to relocate with their women and children? Must one live in a hotel there? Are there no houses/apartments available there? Do you have to eat in a restaurant? Is it prohibited to have a kitchen?

I understand that Dubai is only 10% Arab and the rest is international. This is for the city proper. I'm not sure if this means that it is full of British or Pakistanis or Phillipinos or a combination of everything.

Would this be paradise for a young child in elementary school, or what?

How about a 24 year old man looking to make money? How many little horny banking girls are running around there at night?

I know I want to stay living on the same block I was born and bred and soon will be dead on, but there must be others more adventuresome.
 

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I would if I didnt have two young kids.I might consider sending my wife if they are looking for someone to nag and complain nonstop for 6 weeks-hell ill even buy the plane ticket. Steve
 

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cleveman -

That type of assignment is not for wives and kids, because there are no facilities built yet. Most of the homes and apartments in Dubai are not lived in because they are too new and there are not enough services and service people there yet. - It is sort of like DisneyWorld when they built a few high rise hotels to be uses as housing when there was nothing available. Later, they renovated them and turned them into the towers at Lake Buena Vista.

International construction is not a picnic. It is a lot of hours (6x10-12 or more if it does not have a religion) and little else to do.

Some international work for large companies can be comfortable because the companies have to provide for families since it does not make sense to deal with assignments less than 2 years. - I had a highly qualified friend that worked in Tehran about 30 years ago and he got a house, servants, car and driver and was required to leave the country every 3 months for a week in Paris or whatever. Another went to work in quality control at a cement plant and the company ended up paying $20,000/year for each of his kids to go to school.

Anybody can do it for one or two months, but it takes a differernt type of person for years.
 

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Check it out first

My wife works for the State Dept and until 2 years ago we lived and worked overseas. We spent 2 years in Manama, Bahrain which is not far from Dubai. I have spent some time there and it is not bad, just hotter than you can imagine. It is a fairly liberal city in UAE compared to the capital of Abu Dhabi. That being said you will need to check with the US State Dept first for a couple of reasons. While I was in the Mid East I had diplomatic immunity as long as I was working for the US government, but if I had taken a job on the local economy I would have lost that status and been susceptible to the local laws. Not that big a deal as long as you don't break the law, but their laws are much different than ours, so do a lot of research first. There are some great books on etiquette in other countries, so I would definitely recommend that. I had to take a 3 week course on customs and such before I could go. Also, you will need to check with the IRS. While technically speaking, you might avoid some US tax while over there, you may actually be liable after the fact if it is a US company that you will be working for or you continue to own property in the US, etc. Just a though.

You can go to the State Departments web site at state.gov to check on other information. Last bit of advice is to DEFINITELY register with the US Embassy before and during your stay. They will put you on a list of Americans to be contacted in case something is going on in the area (demonstrations, violence against Americans, etc.)

As far as going back there for me, no thanks, been there done that.

Good luck
 
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Does anyone have any good links on companies to look into or articles about working in dubia? I am interested but do want to research as much as possible. Thanks
 
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