[icerock drywall]

my old process was mesh the hole house with extreme mest tape and then durabond 90(not ez sand) the tape coat it all in the same day. I would mix the hole bag and use it all with out it getting hard (I work alone) it would take about 7 bags per house to do my tape coat in one day...90 was just right but then I thought why ...it nuts to do the hole house in durabond . its ok for small jobs 30 sheets or less becouse you can do 3 coats in one day but the hole house...no I stoped doing that ap mud is works for me on big jobs. I think fibafuse is changing me ... becouse the air can get through it and the mud will dry faster than paper tape becouse the paper traps the mud. sorry paper tapers
my last house I did mesh with hotmud on ceiling seams,butts had mesh then fiberfuse with ap mud on tape coat, inside corners is fiberfuse ap mud . outside corners steel mesh with fiberfuse down the edge , wall seams fiberfuse with ap mud

there is all kinds of ways to mud and I like to mix it up a little ..yes if you want to mix and clean and mix and clean and do a small job 3 coats in one day make $600 or more in one day, yes you can but then the home owner says wow you make too much money and you are rippen me off !!! no more jobs for you but there are some that are very happy too and think your the best :jester:

most finishers use hotmud here and there but you need the right tools too.

 

[thezoo]

durabond is a b*tch to sand. Smooth w/ knife b4 it hardens. I'm going to look into that USG Gypson Plaster Accelerator.

My house (built 1992 by pulte) has nearly every inside corner tape loose & edge line crack and most metal cornerbead edge cracked/loose. I've always taped my cornerbeads for that reason alone, but seriously!?! Durabond would have held, no? Probably a high quality paint may have helped most of the paper but not the cornerbeads.

 

[icerock drywall]

durabond is a b*tch to sand. Smooth w/ knife b4 it hardens. I'm going to look into that USG Gypson Plaster Accelerator.

My house (built 1992 by pulte) has nearly every inside corner tape loose & edge line crack and most metal cornerbead edge cracked/loose. I've always taped my cornerbeads for that reason alone, but seriously!?! Durabond would have held, no? Probably a high quality paint may have helped most of the paper but not the cornerbeads.

steel mesh corners beed is strong .the dyrwall flat steel beed I have not used in 10 years

 

[Sir Mixalot]

My house (built 1992 by pulte) has nearly every inside corner tape loose & edge line crack and most metal cornerbead edge cracked/loose. I've always taped my cornerbeads for that reason alone, but seriously!?! Durabond would have held, no? Probably a high quality paint may have helped most of the paper but not the cornerbeads.

The problem is not enough screws or mud.
Paint would never help those issues.:no:

 

[JHC]

The only thing I use hot mud for are patches I plan on painting the same day. All purpose for taping, lightweight for the second, skim coat gets ultra lightweight.

 

[icerock drywall]

The only thing I use hot mud for are patches I plan on painting the same day. All purpose for taping, lightweight for the second, skim coat gets ultra lightweight.

do a patch and wanted to paint it in the same day you never mix durabond with other layers of mud it will never cure right !!!
you should stick with one type of hotmud if you want to do a quick patch> I do 3 or 4 layers of durabond 20 and wash it down with a spunge and wipe it tight with a knife. still would not paint it untill the next day for cure time

 

[JHC]

Ever hear of a heatgun?

 

[r4r&r]

Ever hear of a heatgun?

Shortening the cure time with heat like that doesn't affect the finish? I mean no extra shrinkage, cracking or issues with the top drying while the bottom still hasn't set?

 

[ranteso]

In most instances we hot mud with a neat tight coat of 45 or 90 and follow up same day with regular.

 

[icerock drywall]

Ever hear of a heatgun?

never needed one for mud to dry...But could use one with a battery in the winter to de-ice my locks on my work trailer:clap:

 

[icerock drywall]

In most instances we hot mud with a neat tight coat of 45 or 90 and follow up same day with regular.

ever get a chemical reaction useing other mud on hotmud like mud peeling becouse its not cured?

 

[JHC]

Shortening the cure time with heat like that doesn't affect the finish? I mean no extra shrinkage, cracking or issues with the top drying while the bottom still hasn't set?

I use hot mud for patches if I want same day painting. Use the heat gun to speed up your dry times, and its easily possible.

The other method is what I use for finishing. All purpose for taping, lightweight for the second, skim coat gets ultra lightweight. Obviously not something you could do in the same day. Ultra lightweight sands the finest and easiest of all.

 

[JHC]

Also it needs to be said, the right primers and paint need to be used as well. Using many different muds on the same job can effect the finish otherwise. Many paints absorb so much differently than others. Biggest thing is using the right primer that will seal all of that, and allow as little absorption of the top coats as possible.

 

[ranteso]

ever get a chemical reaction useing other mud on hotmud like mud peeling becouse its not cured?

Been doing this for over ten years and never had a problem of any kind. We use durabond and then follow up with either USG Reg, or NG multi-use.

 

[Al Taper]

I will use hot mud for patches and small repairs.. I have a 5 board repair job to do. Was thinking of doing it in Hot Mud.. Mesh flats, paper tape angles and butts. Use USG Brown bag for frist coat.

Brown bag = Cement :laughing:

 

[icerock drywall]

I will use hot mud for patches and small repairs.. I have a 5 board repair job to do. Was thinking of doing it in Hot Mud.. Mesh flats, paper tape angles and butts. Use USG Brown bag for frist coat.

Brown bag = Cement :laughing:

I would just do all 3 coats in durabond 90 ...would not do it any other way

 

[icerock drywall]

durabond is a b*tch to sand. Smooth w/ knife b4 it hardens. I'm going to look into that USG Gypson Plaster Accelerator.

My house (built 1992 by pulte) has nearly every inside corner tape loose & edge line crack and most metal cornerbead edge cracked/loose. I've always taped my cornerbeads for that reason alone, but seriously!?! Durabond would have held, no? Probably a high quality paint may have helped most of the paper but not the cornerbeads.

you dont need to sand durabond...you put it on smooth:blink:

 

[Robinson_Cnst]

Easysand is good for a couple of things....heavy fills and quick setting. Unless you texture everything, you are not going to tape, finish, and sand a room in one day without it looking like you did just that. If you're doing a whole house save yourself a huge headache, tape with all purpose and finish with lightweight compound. Keep the easysand for major prefills prior to taping if needed and your first beadcoat.

Those are words of a professional. You will never sell me on the idea of finishing with hot mud. It may sand easier than durabond, but it doesn't finish like lightweight. Have fun sanding boys unless you have phenomenal finishing skills I don't.

 

[Frankawitz]

durabond is a b*tch to sand. Smooth w/ knife b4 it hardens. I'm going to look into that USG Gypson Plaster Accelerator.

My house (built 1992 by pulte) has nearly every inside corner tape loose & edge line crack and most metal cornerbead edge cracked/loose. I've always taped my cornerbeads for that reason alone, but seriously!?! Durabond would have held, no? Probably a high quality paint may have helped most of the paper but not the cornerbeads.

I see your home was built by Plute There is the problem, In Michigan Plute has been kicked out of Our State 7 times for shottie work, He used the Cheapest Labor and Materials, When I was just starting out all I heard were stories of Home Owners having problems with windows rotting drywall corners always cracking just one thing after another, Now Plute builds houses in a factory:laughing:

 

[TBFGhost]

There is a builder that did a bunch of work around here and man, 10 years down the road the houses are falling apart...makes good work for me tho....