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So I got the tool list:

http://www.lcsc.edu/ti/hvar/tool_listHVAC.htm

I'm kind of wondering what else is good to have for doing HVAC/Electrical work? Time saver type stuff.

Like having a trenching shovel for clean out work in landscaping.

My tuition is already paid for and I'm getting a $5.5K grant that I can use to get goodies with. Plus my GI Bill every month.

I've been looking at the Wiha, Fluke, and Bosch websites, since I know those are good tools. I've also cruised the Klein website.

These looked nifty:

http://www.toolbelts.com/index.php

What do you guys have that you can't live without? What do you have that's just taking up space and you never use? What don't you have that you wish you did?
 

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Don't go in to debt buying tools all at once..Buy them as you need them for a paying job...
 
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That's basically what I did w/ landscaping tools and equipment. Buy it as I needed it. Now I have a $4K stump grinder that hasn't seen action in 18 months. Weird thing is I was renting one every week until I bought one. Now I can't get a stump grinding job to save my life. Funny how that works out.

I do need to get the stuff on the list by August 21.
 

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Those are some wicked looking bags, I like the built in drill index. The only problem with the deluxe sets is that with all that crap in the bags one is liable to see gravity triumph over one's pants.
 

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So I got the tool list:

http://www.lcsc.edu/ti/hvar/tool_listHVAC.htm

I'm kind of wondering what else is good to have for doing HVAC/Electrical work? Time saver type stuff.

Like having a trenching shovel for clean out work in landscaping.

My tuition is already paid for and I'm getting a $5.5K grant that I can use to get goodies with. Plus my GI Bill every month.

I've been looking at the Wiha, Fluke, and Bosch websites, since I know those are good tools. I've also cruised the Klein website.

These looked nifty:

http://www.toolbelts.com/index.php

What do you guys have that you can't live without? What do you have that's just taking up space and you never use? What don't you have that you wish you did?

What a coincidence. I happen to have $5,500.00 worth of goodies to sell. :whistling:thumbsup:
 

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Whaddya got? Anything on the list?
 

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My personal opinion on toolbelts is something simular to this:
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=263952-1492-1L-72066-M4&lpage=none

I have 2 belts one a triple bag set-up (new to construction had to be cock of the walk) seems to gather dust then I down sized to one simular to the above. For much of what I was doing for awhile I used a drill holster on one side a bag on the other tape holder hammer holder etc. The key to the above example is the suspenders are integrated into the belt with metal clips MUCH better than the standard suspenders and helps distribute weight.

As far as the electrical tools: Klein and Greenlee (you figured that out though)

Tape measure Fat Max Xtreme

Wrenches and sockets for the money I LOVE Husky.(Snap-on,Mack etc. are lifetime too but seem to me to be overpriced for people out side the Car/Diesel Mechanic world)

The above is the brands and stuff I've seen on most all commercial/residential sites used by HVAC guys as well as electricians.
Hope I'm not being redundant by basically adding brand names to your list.

Now for the "extras" not so much on list. I find ALL trades find a 18 volt combo kit INVALUABLE. My personal favorite is DeWalt's but others will insert the usual Makita,Milwaukee(Ryobi:laughing::laughing:JK) etc

The impact is my right hand! The chordless hammer drill is good for mild to moderate use.Same with sawsall. OBVIOUSLY you'll have to get the usual chorded ones too. On"specialty " chorded one you'll most likely need is a rotary SDS.(Dewalt,or Bosch etc.)

A powder acuated gun comes in handy.Hilti makes a single shot also a "semi auto" type.(they make alot off the other tools above but don't know if the price and performance are matched well. Don't have a personal "hands on" with them)

The above is based on my opinion and what I've seen guys use with little to moderate bitching.Hope it's more of a help than a hinderence.;)

Good luck on the HVAC! I gave it some thought myself.(living in Florida it seemed to be a no brainer) but couldn't afford the $$$$$ and then 2 companies I know one in So Fla laid off half the company and one here is closing up shop due to "the plague".
 

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For the most part, time will dictate what you need. But, several 6 in 1 screwdrivers are quite handy, and the Ryobi impact driver is a must have as well for time savings (don't forget to pick up a flex extension). Obviously there are a lot of other tools that are necessary, but those two items are "must haves"
 

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Thanks Warner. I'm new to these kinds of tools. My power tools are all cordless, they have gas engines on em. :D
 

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By the way, what is an impact driver?
 

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I was looking at this combo kit. Do you think that's a good one?

http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=CPK42-36
NO! IMO 36 volts are heavier and impractical. Most times when the AC guy shows up to a sight there's temp power poll(s) on sight or in commercial with multple floors temp power on all or every other floor.(unless you get on the rough in crew) If your on the service side power is almost always there. Also might not be able to get into confined places.

One like this is better:

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=305526-70-DCK655X&lpage=none

Snake flashlight AWESOME.

Impact driver(this is the workhorse of ANY combo kit) the one you showed has the drill only. PLAY with the impact driver doing johnny homeowner shiz around your house!!! Untill you get the hang of the torque you'll snap the F:censored:CK out off of fastners if you don't have a feel for it. Also is VERY compact and easier than a drill for confined areas.

Hammer Drill. You might not ALWAYS need the hammering feature but nice to have. You can always set the drill up to drill for a bracket or mount your air handler "chair" to the floor etc. set it down and grab the impact to install the fastner. Even with keyless chucks it can be a PITA to switch back and forth between the drill bit and screw tip,nut driver etc.

Sawsall: AGAIN use it ALWAYS? Depends

The cut off/grinder: If I had the money to start from scratch this combo would be the one. Getting out a chord and grinder for 10 min. F:censored:CK THAT!

The cicular saw is the one item I don't care for. I had the original small one (SOME F:censored:CK HEAD STOLE IT:furious:) This one EATS batteries! Chances are you'll only need it to cut the occasional scrap 2"X4" to block something up anyway.

Bateries: ALWAYS have a couple spare. Most stores are now offering 2 for $110 if not christmas is THE BEST time to pick up the 2 fer special! One "luxury item" if you will is the jobsite radio. Depending on jobsites that allow them I use it for my charger. It's rugged you don't get gunk in the charging portion and you got tunes!:thumbup:(personally I have an MP3 on me at ALL times so it's either in my pocket or on the radio). You can use your charger from the kit as a second on the site or at home to prep the batteries for the next day.

It might go without saying but I'll say it anyway.Get a 12-3 100' chord,a 50' 12-3 and maybe '25. Even if you don't run alot of electrical tools, you can ALWAYS make sure your charger is in plain sight!!!!!:eek:

If you get a SDS a 100' 10-3 extension IS A MUST! or you'll burn the motor out!!!

Like I said before I prefer DeWalt but you can go to the tool threads and watch the guys have a pissing contest over which brand is the shiz. and I use Lowes as a reference 'cause when HD started carying Rigid they downsized DeWalts.

If you get into commercial construction HVAC...YOUR OWN JOB BOX!!!!!!!!!!!! and a shopping cart LOL(if you ever get near a commercial site you'll see what I mean about the shopping cart!:laughing:)

Here is a site that carries A BUTT LOAD of stuff. NOT always cheaper than local stores but a pretty big selection of stuff locals don't have and you can get bare tools if you have batteries and don't want to spend money on another kit.

http://www.maxtool.com/comp_index.htm

KRYPES This turned from a post to a damn BLOG!!!!! :laughing:
 

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Dude, if I had a thrid nut, I would have been in porn a long time ago.:laughing:
Ironically I know a guy who has 3 nuts, although I have never seen them his girlfriend told me that the third one is smaller then the other two, he's not in porn though.....yet.

As far as the electrical tools: Klein and Greenlee
Greenlee handtools look similar to Klein yet perform alot worse, I bought a full set to replace me beat-ass Klein's and ended up handing em over to one of my guys after a month. Greenlee makes good commercial/industrial tools and I love their pipe level and drywall saw but the rest of the hand tools are a complete afterthought.

Stick with the basics bob, diagonal cutters, aviation cutters, linesman's screwdrivers...ahh heck I'l just take a pick of my tool bag tommorow!

Tape measure Fat Max Xtreme
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Ok, the FMX is handy for measuring out pot lights before I bought my laser tape but other then that its sh!t. Too curly to read and the blade armour chips off; and expensive.

Cordless combo set is a must, and for the pennies that the sawzall costs with the kit it can be handy, that being said it is my LEAST used cordless tool. (after I got my Greenlee retractible drywall saw that uses sawzall blades I almost never use it; great tool I bought 3!) I do however use the cordless circular saw alot.

Don't go nuts buying SDS hammerdrills, or powder nailers unless you seriously get into the business; then buy em.

By the way, what is an impact driver?
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The Fastenal store in Moscow carries Wiha, Fluke, Bosch, and Klein. Do you think it's better to buy these tools local or go on-line? My landscape stuff I buy local because there aren't big discounts available at on-line retailers for Husqvarna.
 

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I have yet to find that great of hand tool deals online, and I enjoy the interactivity of buying from a real person.

Fastenal (if you talk to the right person) should cut you a deal if your buying a decent number of tools, just put on the sweet talk.

Wiha and Klein both make some nice plyers and cutters as well as Knipex. Around here Klein is king, they have excellent cutters yet their oh-so popular screwdrivers arn't worth a hoot (despite the fact I own a ton of them). Klein has alot of hit-and-miss products, but if its a set of plyers/cutters you can't go wrong.

Bosch cordless tools are nice, but I don't think I'd put them on a pedastle above the other big names. The Makita/Milwaukee/Dewalt etc stuff goes on sale all the times, to the point where I wouldn't buy a set if it wasn't on sale!

Fluke Multimeter is a sweet tool if you don't mind shelling out the dough; I have the version that does capacitors but thats probably overkill. Fluke handtools are more datacomm oriented.
 
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