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What is your definition of a hack?

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ive heard a lot about hacks on this site so im curious to know what type of stuff a hack does and what your opinion of them is.
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The best way to answer that is to ask how you would know the difference between your own signature and a forgery. You don't need to define your forged signature to know whether or not the signature that you wrote is real.

The same applies when describing a hack compared to a real contractor.
The definition of hack has everything to do with attitude and nothing to do with ability.
Oh I don't know about that... known a lot of people who had attitudes that were lacking but they kicked butt with what they did...

IMHO, a hack is someone who says or sells that he can do something, and can't...
The definition of hack has everything to do with attitude and nothing to do with ability.
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To me a hack is the guy with the "it's good enough" attitude. The guy who doesn't really care about his craft, doesn't regard it as anything more than a way to make a buck, the guy who purposefully cuts corners and uses sub par materials because it's cheaper. The guy who knows that he doesn't know the right way of doing something but doesn't give enough of a damn to learn.
We have a whole thread showing what hacks are, and what they do http://www.contractortalk.com/f3/wall-shame-118495/
That cleared it up... :laughing:
We have a whole thread showing what hacks are, and what they do http://www.contractortalk.com/f3/wall-shame-118495/
A hack is the guy before me or the guy that got the job instead of me.
Just don't be a googan.
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Hack=anyone who doesn't follow the rules that legitimate contractors are bound to follow whether in work quality, code adherence, or lacking required insurance/qualifications to perform the work legally.
A hack is someone who does it the easiest, quickest, and cheapest route, and disregards any long term consequences.

I can deal with something being off an inch, but lazy workmanship irks me.
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Someone who lacks integrity.

Now define integrity.
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That's how you act when no one is looking.
Someone who lacks integrity.

Now define integrity.
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OK, I'll play.

  1. Someone who doesn't recommend things that are clearly not needed to a homeowner who is relying on honest advice.
  2. Someone who doesn't play dumb and relies on abusive change orders when he "finds things" that he knew would likely be there in order to sell the job.
  3. Someone who actually intends to take care of any issues, even after they are paid in full without bargaining or fighting.
  4. Someone who treats their customers better than they expect to be treated with the "selfish" intent that word of mouth will prevail.

Unfortunately, many potential clients can't see through the tricks and end up getting screwed, which makes us all look bad.
Someone who lacks integrity.

Now define integrity.
What you call someone when you don't agree with their method....just kidding. It's the "good enough" attitude, when you don't take that extra step to do something the right way.

Cutting corners when you know the client won't know the difference is hackish.
Someone who cares nothing about craftsmanship, only separating a client from their money.
Someone who uses a hawk and knife to apply wood filler on their casing...
You mean that's not allowed anymore?
Someone who uses a hawk and knife to apply wood filler on their casing...
Soo, now that you have an idea of what a hack does what is your opinion of them?

To me a hack is all of the above plus someone who gets in over their head and instead of being honest and saying that they are just keep plugging away instead of asking for help. IE, my current job the HO hired a "plumber". He was in way over his head with rain shower heads (he had never installed one) and kept trying to tell me that the plastic cover can stick out up to an inch past the finish wall. Now this guy may have used to have been a plumber but things are much different now. especially when a carpenter has to tell him to loop his pipes for the rain shower and to get his mixer valve to only stick out 5/8 from the framing.

I am not even close to being a plumber I just know what I have observed over the years.
ive heard a lot about hacks on this site so im curious to know what type of stuff a hack does and what your opinion of them is.
Rain heads!:laughing:

You're in Texas where attics don't get below 32 degrees often. Imagine that same scenario where it DOES get a little nipply up there and combine it with a hack that installed it.

It happens a bunch up here.
He was in way over his head with rain shower heads (he had never installed one) and kept trying to tell me that the plastic cover can stick out up to an inch past the finish wall.
a hack is the builder that uses the word hack because he just lost a job to someone else that can do the same job for cheaper
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