You trying to stir the pot?

...rattle the hornet's nest?

: }

-Scott

 

Lol . . . No more pan liners . Wedi is the way to go will never do sheet liners agin .

 

Staying away from that tar thing going on now . :whistling

 

Alright then,


...I just cant get behind these foam based products.

I'll stick with the vinyl and mud deck.
-Scott

Did you make the rabbits in the foam?

...like drop in ceiling tiles?

 

Alright then,


...I just cant get behind these foam based products.

I'll stick with the vinyl and mud deck.
-Scott

I was the same way . Tile rep talked me into it and let me say it takes a lot of guess work out for the not so smart people with mud leveling , Building curbs , built in shelf's . Which I can do mud jobs . But now you can have you staff do the work and know the system works with not so smart guys . . Follow the steps .

 

Tile rep talked me into it

Because you are putting money into his pocket.

Gizmo/gadget salespeople for gizmo/gadget manufacturers don't make any money if you go to the local hardware store and buy cement and sand. Heck, some internet tile boards wouldn't exist if that were the case.... :laughing:

 

"...slowly, he turned...
inch by inch, step by step...."

I hear you.

I don't know that it is a lack of skill that is defeating the pan system.
I think it was lack of care in the installation process...
...people cutting corners on a system and process that amount of fudging. You will not eliminate this problem from the equation with a less skill intensive application.

I do know its cost.





I hope the stuff works out.
I'm just not willing to make that leap of faith just yet.

 

I don't know that it is a lack of skill that is defeating the pan system.
...
I think it was lack of care in the installation process...

I vote for BOTH...assuming ignorance is included in there somewhere.
Next few weeks, I have more work due pan liners failing. Well, it's not the liner, it was the install of the liner and the drains. But even if they got that right, their float was wrong.

So do pan liners suck? Nope.
Does mud suck? Nope.

Ignorant people doing sh***y work suck.

 

Our tile guy has been using the Wedi system for years. He had been installing it in Germay and Russia (he's from Russia) long before it got to the USA. He said he's got units that have been in use for 15+ years without a problem. I've done one and have to say it's not that difficult to do.

Back in the day they would chisel things in stone to send messages
Then we used pen and paper
Now we use email

 

In the race to build foam shower systems, the Russians beat us?

 

Skillman,

Love wedi. Light weight and waterproofing all in one. Did you get the sausage gun? Worth the $ IMO. I cut the nozzle a bit bigger to lay down the right size bead the first time. Saves time.

Word of caution, don't get interrupted while applying the sealant. It doesn't smooth very well if it starts to set.

Don't forget the drain hole in the plywood! :laughing:

 

I bought two of those damn sausage guns.....got 3 jobs out of each of them. Stupid design if caulking gets on threads it just spins, cause the threads are not welded to gun. Sure does make it easier though. Not worth $100 though

 

What the crap sausage gun is that? Mine has the threads cast into the body.

 

I paid about 65, I think. I'll have to check the threads on mine. Big difference in sealant cost with larger quantity in the sausage tube.

 

I'm using the caulk tubes . Never bought into that big sausage tube bag and gun . Forgot to take pics of me thin-set back of base and floor today we grooves face in out . I meant to take it when I was doing it . Lol phone call messed me up .

 

i use a mop and a big a@# bucket of hot tar, it the only way to go if you live in cali ....this is what i have learned this week

sorry to hyjack

 

:thumbup::laughing:
Steve,

My plumber and I have debates among many people about this topic all the time.

He was the one, when I first started out, that taught me to respect the integrity of the vinyl pan during backer board install.

...and to this day, still do not used the "magic red" for any of these installs with vinyl.

In saying this I'm either gonna get Hack responses or "Oh yeah? well then how do you...?"

 

about 10 years ago the rage here was huge multi angle walk in showers in new homes. somehow it was the plumbers job to install vynal liners for the tile guys to put a mud bed on top. i hated every minute and the folded corners were super thick, after a month of them we refused it and let the tile guys do the whole thing...rightfully so:thumbsup:

one of the company's i do service work for manufactures the tile ready base system, i have put a couple in my own place and they were slick. i like acrylic bases the best, i i dont think i will never do a mud base myself, it would cost me too much time,material and beer when i f it all up. i admire the craftsmanship of the people who do them.

 

 

 

 

 

Wedi waterproof walkin shower in Pittsburgh, pa

 

Nice and big . :thumbsup: What you putting on bench .

 

Actually did last year. Figured I just put in a plug on your thread.

 

Actually did last year. Figured I just put in a plug on your thread.

Did you put wedi on top of bench .

 

Underneath for the tile.....really wasn't that important there since water wasn't going that far back (it's about 7 ft wide there)

 

Steven,

Nicely Done.
Is that a linear drain across the base of the plumbing wall?

-Scott