Up here, those are deep enough you have to set trench boxes. Are you having to set trench boxes?

 

Yea we run boxes in the roads but some areas we run through an open field for new development so we step or slope it. Dealing with those setups for boxes or sloping will affect production rates not necessarily crew size correct?

 

Depends on how good the operators are. Good operators keep everybody jumping. Half arse operators drag things down. But — that’s a wide open question. Soil type, rocky, sandy, clay etc. Weather in your area the list goes on. I’ve been watching a 2 mile stretch of water line going on 3 months now. Rock & inexperienced operators have some ranchers pissed.

Mike

 

I agree operators make or break the project. I was just curious what everyone was seeing on average for crew size. Example for most projects we look at a 5 man crew plus a super. Running an operator, a ground guy, a pipe fitter, 2 backfill guys. I think that is ideal but wanted to see if that is realistic in the industry? With that many guys i would expect 150LF-200LF per day on a 6’ deep trench. I agree with different variable on soils and depth. But our projects generally sit in a type B soil and 6’ -7’ deep trenches.

 

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Must be making a killing per foot at 150 feet a day

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Last time I was on a crew like that was about 15 years ago

We had I think 6 or 7 guys

One guy on the hoe.

Guy on the grade rod

Guy on the loader bringing pea gravel

2 guys pulling strings and fitting pipe

Loader backfilling

Guy on the walk-behind compactor

Super was in and out

I was either on the machine digging and trying to run the guys, or when I had a guy to dig, I was on the fitting crew.

Fitting crew got real slow with me on a machine.

 

Priority is on the qualities of the operator.