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I have a new remodeler im working for...there have been several red flags so far...but today when I tried calling him his voice mail is full

in the past this has always meant the guy is basically out of business...the voice mails are full because every sub. is calling asking for $$....this has been the case 100% of the time for me.

I have done 2 jobs for him in 2 weeks and was planning on bidding on another one this week.....the biggest red flag is he has never asked my price...the jobs are all last minute and I do them at T&M.......by now he has 2 invoices and knows my prices.....but how do you hire someone w/o knowing the price......what if im $1,000 over budget?

ive been in these situations before...I am hard core on collections and have always been paid in the end...but I can see it coming (I always do)

I emailed the guy asking if hes having financial issues

is there any other reason his voice mail would be full?
 

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Guys on vacation? Guy has a small mailbox (basic mailboxes here are 3 or so messages)? Could be a plethora of reasons, don't always jump to the negative ones.

Mines been full in the past, as I deleted them, they weren't deleted, just archived and I had to go in and delete again, still do, I just know that is what needs to done now.
 

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An electrician I have used has a voice mail that is always full. He is a great electrician and a good business man..... Other than the fact that he never checks his voice mail. If he has a missed call from you he calls you back though.
 

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I've known people that have done that for years. That does not mean they are bad or going out of business. But, it is bad business.

If it is somebody new that you are working for I can understand your concern, I would be concerned too.
 

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Does he pay on time? Checks good?

I'd give him a couple of days to sort it out. Could be a new phone he's not familiar with. I got a new phone last year and when I deleted messages they didn't actually delete, just 'archived'. It was my fault because that's how I set the phone up (not intentionally).

But yeah, a constantly full inbox is a huge red flag for me too.
 

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If you can't get him for a few days, I would worry but 1 day of voice mail full is not a big deal.
I get storage for 20 voice mails, and when busy, save voice mails to deal with them later in the day so I dont forget.

I can easily get 20 voice mails in a day, and have filled my voice mail more than once.

If he is not clearing them by the morning, then I would be more concerned
 

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I'm great at calling people back but just forget to delete messages. I have "visual voicemail" with Verizon which pops up a message that the mailbox is almost full so I don't usually have an issue but it would be bad for me otherwise.
 

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I would simply ask him. Some people just don't check voice mail or fail to clear it out often enough.
 

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mine gets full from time to time. but my vcml clearly states to call the office or email. 99% of mine are from deliveries and stuff like I'm here where are you, or running late...blahblablah... we have 2-teams i am one with helper. run appointments, estimate close deals handle materials and so on an so on..jeez I'm getting a headache. I'll call you the customer when I need you until then call the office or email we always get to everybody same day / 24hrs. and if your house is falling down on fire you should not be calling me. I can't stand when people don't have vcml and you just get that automated chit " the pcs customers is not available" I alot of my customers text me and ask to call them to go over a things and get to them when I get a few minutes. I gotta tell ya most of time we don't even see the customers during the job. don't spaz out. tell him the box is full and or ask for 1/2 up front or something.
 

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I hate working with people who aren't good at keeping the lines of communication open.

Only two reasons they wont ask for a price IMO... you are bidding them too low or he doesnt plan on paying you anyways
 

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This seems to be happening more and more. I returned 3 calls today that either had full mailboxes or the nice recorded stated the mailbox was never set up....They were all contractors.
I have never set up a voice mail on any of my phones.

I transact business through my office phone- leave a message there.

currently, my wife,my 2 sons,my 2 daughter in laws, and one supplier have my cel #.

Everyone else can call the office and leave a message. I don't like to talk on the phone and I am hard of hearing anyway- so I return all calls each day-generally between 6:00 PM and 7:00 PM when I am calm,cool,collected and clean-AND in a quiet enviornment.

someone doesn't like that arrangement-they can call someone else because I have no intention of being a slave to a ringing phone.

there are NO emergencies in this business.

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Stephen H.,

I used to be the same way. Now everybody has my cell phone. I do get really tired of the phone ringing. On the other hand, these days, when I'm done working for the day, I'm done. I don't have to think about responding to 15 different people at the end of the day.
I think it is better for my family if I leave work alone for a few hours at night. Everybody has a different situation though.
 

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there are NO emergencies in this business.
Tell that to the folks who called me at 12:15 AM one night because the wind had ripped one of our tarps off and water was getting into their bedroom. Matter of fact, their bed. :eek:

The GC was notoriously unavailable almost any time except when a draw was due, so I always made sure the client had my number for such things. He's been out of business for quite some time now, and those folks are insanely loyal to me.
 

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Hm....

If I was a customer looking to have some work done,....leaving a voice mail box full might not go over to well....:rolleyes:


You never have a second chance to make a first impression....:whistling



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If I call a business line and don't get answer, I may or may leave a voicemail.

If I'm looking to have work done, first thing I consider is if the phone is answered or not. Last thing I want is the contractor calling me back during dinner time.
 
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