They make a laptop systainer.:laughing:
Veto Pro Pac XL vs. XL-LT
After using the Veto XL for quite some time and loving it I still found myself lugging around my laptop bag with me where ever I went. In an effort to only have to carry one bag I figured I could remove all my underused hand tools; keep my essentials and switch to the XL-LT.
The XL-LT from the pictures appear to be almost the same bag, except for 2 added slots for a laptop and/or paperwork. One side is identical to the XL (lets call this the tools side) yet the other has pouches for powersupply, wires, pens etc (lets call this the accessory side). After some thought it went on my long list of tools to buy….Magically it appeared on Christmas morning.
As I went through weeding out my tools and filling up my new bag things were going great…Until I tried to zip-up the bag.
It was then that I realized the allocation of space in the bag as a little different from the XL. The bag is basically the same dimensions, uses what appears to be the same plastic base. When they added in the 2X middle lap-top slots they sacrificed the space from the tool side. Forget about parking your measuring tape, chalk line, hammer or any bulky tool on the tool side. Even with a bunch of screwdrivers the side fills up quicker then I had hoped.
The accessory side, however, has about the same extra space as the XL but it uses a bunch of large soft neoprene pouches, which are a little stretchy by not as rugged as the nylon pouches. Suffice it to say I have to store my punches, speed squarer and other fat tools in the accessory side.
Only other minor differences are the XL-LT does not have my beloved pencil holding slots on the side. But it does have a loop-and-clasp for electrical tape.
It is still a very well made bag and I like it and plan on continuing to use it but I don’t think I will have that much more appreciation for it over the XL. I now have to have all the tools that I can’t fit in it in various systainer kits. It will take a few months of use to really get a feel whether I’m going to jump back to the old XL or keep the XL-LT in action.
The XL sells for about 135USD where the XL-LT is 225USD so you are paying a big premium for the laptop slots…which are pretty skinny and don’t offer a heck of a lot of room, but they fit my laptop, router and netbook all at the same time.
Bottom line is that the bag could be 200% better if it had a wider base in the tool side, or at-least a little extra material on the zip-up cover so I could load all the pockets with tools and still be able to zip the bag up!
I wouldn’t say I’m disappointed overall, but I’m a little miffed that someone NEVER actually tried to fill the bag with tools and test it out before sending it to market….Veto I love your bags but next time test out a prototype with real tradesmen before marketing it.
And since I’m Canadian I don’t qualify for the free Stabila level…great.
PS: Pic from Veto website, I will post my own soon.
Cheers,
Kevin
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The XL-LT from the pictures appear to be almost the same bag, except for 2 added slots for a laptop and/or paperwork. One side is identical to the XL (lets call this the tools side) yet the other has pouches for powersupply, wires, pens etc (lets call this the accessory side). After some thought it went on my long list of tools to buy….Magically it appeared on Christmas morning.
As I went through weeding out my tools and filling up my new bag things were going great…Until I tried to zip-up the bag.
It was then that I realized the allocation of space in the bag as a little different from the XL. The bag is basically the same dimensions, uses what appears to be the same plastic base. When they added in the 2X middle lap-top slots they sacrificed the space from the tool side. Forget about parking your measuring tape, chalk line, hammer or any bulky tool on the tool side. Even with a bunch of screwdrivers the side fills up quicker then I had hoped.
The accessory side, however, has about the same extra space as the XL but it uses a bunch of large soft neoprene pouches, which are a little stretchy by not as rugged as the nylon pouches. Suffice it to say I have to store my punches, speed squarer and other fat tools in the accessory side.
Only other minor differences are the XL-LT does not have my beloved pencil holding slots on the side. But it does have a loop-and-clasp for electrical tape.
It is still a very well made bag and I like it and plan on continuing to use it but I don’t think I will have that much more appreciation for it over the XL. I now have to have all the tools that I can’t fit in it in various systainer kits. It will take a few months of use to really get a feel whether I’m going to jump back to the old XL or keep the XL-LT in action.
The XL sells for about 135USD where the XL-LT is 225USD so you are paying a big premium for the laptop slots…which are pretty skinny and don’t offer a heck of a lot of room, but they fit my laptop, router and netbook all at the same time.
Bottom line is that the bag could be 200% better if it had a wider base in the tool side, or at-least a little extra material on the zip-up cover so I could load all the pockets with tools and still be able to zip the bag up!
I wouldn’t say I’m disappointed overall, but I’m a little miffed that someone NEVER actually tried to fill the bag with tools and test it out before sending it to market….Veto I love your bags but next time test out a prototype with real tradesmen before marketing it.
And since I’m Canadian I don’t qualify for the free Stabila level…great.
PS: Pic from Veto website, I will post my own soon.
Cheers,
Kevin
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OK Cole this is for you:
This is the XL, I didn't feel like filling it with tools this time so if you want to see it full of tools look at my Veto album, (pics also linked in another Veto thread). Instead of Tools I used 3 beer bottles and a toy car.
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Still lots of room to close the flap, even over the toy truck.
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Notice the room in the bottom, you can really fill the pockets and it has room to spare!
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Now, notice how the LT still has decent room for stuff on the accessory side?
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Now, look at the tool side: No room what so ever, the screwdriver holders and pockets are even squished against the plastic base so you can't put any tools inside them! Pretty stupid if you ask me...and yes the flap is fully unziped.
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I then folded up the flap to show how it will almost not even close even though its not even close to full tool capacity.
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Side by Side
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Overhead, the XL will close easily but the LTXL is tight; and you can see that the laptop slots make the bag alot wider at the top so it is more square as opposed to tapered.
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Finally just a pic to show the lap-top slots:
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This is the XL, I didn't feel like filling it with tools this time so if you want to see it full of tools look at my Veto album, (pics also linked in another Veto thread). Instead of Tools I used 3 beer bottles and a toy car.
Still lots of room to close the flap, even over the toy truck.
Notice the room in the bottom, you can really fill the pockets and it has room to spare!
Now, notice how the LT still has decent room for stuff on the accessory side?
Now, look at the tool side: No room what so ever, the screwdriver holders and pockets are even squished against the plastic base so you can't put any tools inside them! Pretty stupid if you ask me...and yes the flap is fully unziped.
I then folded up the flap to show how it will almost not even close even though its not even close to full tool capacity.
Side by Side
Overhead, the XL will close easily but the LTXL is tight; and you can see that the laptop slots make the bag alot wider at the top so it is more square as opposed to tapered.
Finally just a pic to show the lap-top slots:
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