[moorewarner]

I have a job coming up refinishing a house worth of trim.

I will be going to a lighter shade and sooo...

it's tool time! :w00t::thumbup:

I am contemplating either the Fein Multi or my first Festool purchase (the LS 130).

The trim profile isn't particularly intricate, but my desire to hand sand all of this is 0%.

So the Fein has the advantage of a multitude of uses after this job, and the Festool has the advantage of dust collection and being one sweet specialty tool.

The only thing more frightening than the Multi's price tag is anything with "Festool" on it (I am a little frightened that the Festool stuff might be as nice as everyone says and a habbit like that could drive me too ruin).

OK, that's it. What tool, either of the above or something else, is most recommended to strip down a house worth of trim to bare wood?

 

[EricTheHandyman]

I've got the Mulitmaster and love it. It paid for itself after the time savings on one job, and like you already said, it has many other uses. I had the dremel detail sander, and it stopped functioning, sent it in, replaced the switch, 2 years later it stopped again so I picked up the multi.

 

[Inner10]

For the small price of a divorce you could probably get both!

Never used the festool but I tried out a MM a couple weeks ago and it was cool, really really cool; its next on the to buy list...but the price of the blades YIKES.

 

[WarnerConstInc.]

The LS130 will out perform the MM in the profile sanding task. The DX 93 is a great detail sander as well.
I guess it depends on the profile of what you have to sand. You can make custom pads for the LS 130.

You better get a CT dust extractor while oyur at it too!!

I say buy the Festool, and then get the MM.

I have a MM but, I never sand with it.

 

[Five Star]

i wouldnt recommend sanding alot of trim with the MM, a few pieces yes but not a whole house! the paper clogs to fast, its good for lite and quick sanding jobs, not hours of sanding!

i would recommend highly any of the festool sanders!
i just got an ets 150/5 and sanded 13 treads with 2 discs of paper in about 30 min! its awsome and the dust collection with a ct 33 is unsurpassed!

IM STILL HIDING IT FROM THE WIFE UNDER DROP CLOTHS IN THE GARAGE :laughing:

 

[WarnerConstInc.]

I ran out of drop cloths to hide those under. I think mine is on to me about selling my Bosch saw and replacing it with a Kapex, and table, and crown stops....help.

 

[moorewarner]

The LS130 will out perform the MM in the profile sanding task. The DX 93 is a great detail sander as well.
I guess it depends on the profile of what you have to sand. You can make custom pads for the LS 130.

You better get a CT dust extractor while oyur at it too!!

I say buy the Festool, and then get the MM.

I have a MM but, I never sand with it.

I saw a used Fein Supercut for $300 today it sounded a little loud, I am thinking it may need work. But for a $400 savings I could probably get it rebuilt and still come out ahead (at the pawn shop, I always have mixed emotions getting a tool some poor brother lost to the Man).

i wouldnt recommend sanding alot of trim with the MM, a few pieces yes but not a whole house! the paper clogs to fast, its good for lite and quick sanding jobs, not hours of sanding!

i would recommend highly any of the festool sanders!
i just got an ets 150/5 and sanded 13 treads with 2 discs of paper in about 30 min! its awsome and the dust collection with a ct 33 is unsurpassed!

Yea the festool is what is needed, $700 *shudder*. One of the old timers at my fav tool shop was telling me how he creates a custom profile pad out of hard insulation board and then sticky velcroes it to his sander. A $30 optional route with more headache and no dust collection but I do love the Old-Timers.:thumbup:

IM STILL HIDING IT FROM THE WIFE UNDER DROP CLOTHS IN THE GARAGE :laughing:

That's a smart move, she would get a whole lotta clothes shopping to even that balance.

 

[moorewarner]

That Old-Timer was also telling me how he set aside his decade plus Makita slider love (which I was planing on pasturing my DeWault for) for the Kapex.

I need to become a Festool junkie about as much as I need a 5 rock a day habit. I'll end up living in box clutching all my Festool cases, but it would be one sweet lookin' box.:cool2:

 

[moorewarner]

I ran out of drop cloths to hide those under. I think mine is on to me about selling my Bosch saw and replacing it with a Kapex, and table, and crown stops....help.

You want help with your addiction or evading your wife?

We came to believe no recovery was possible until we admitted our powerlessness and took a fearless and searching moral inventory of our addiction..:ninja:

Your scr3w3d dude!:laughing::laughing::laughing:

 

[WarnerConstInc.]

The Fein Super cuts are just loud tools, that is how they sound. My RAS 115 and DX 93 festool sanders are loud too.

If you have that much sanding to do, it is well worth the money for a complete set up with a vac.
It might seem expensive when you first buy it but, after you sand that first window casing, door, stair tread, whatever, you quickly forget about the cost.

Their sanders are real time savers.

 

[moorewarner]

The Fein Super cuts are just loud tools, that is how they sound. My RAS 115 and DX 93 festool sanders are loud too.

If you have that much sanding to do, it is well worth the money for a complete set up with a vac.
It might seem expensive when you first buy it but, after you sand that first window casing, door, stair tread, whatever, you quickly forget about the cost.

Their sanders are real time savers.

Yeah, I told this woman about five times so far "now sanding is going to make dust", she keeps saying "I know". I think her actual tolerance (she is a neat freak) is about one degree above zero. Anything short of leaving her house immaculate at the end of the day may cause her head to explode.

Head explosions before the final check gets written are decidedly sub-optimal.

 

[WarnerConstInc.]

I dont know if you have given her a bid or not but, pimp a near dust free set-up and charger her the extra coin to get you into a sander and a CT vac. You can do it, I know it. Thats one of my big things for me to HO's, dust free remodeling. You are allowed by the higher powers to charge more for convience.

 

[moorewarner]

I dont know if you have given her a bid or not but, pimp a near dust free set-up and charger her the extra coin to get you into a sander and a CT vac. You can do it, I know it. Thats one of my big things for me to HO's, dust free remodeling. You are allowed by the higher powers to charge more for convience.

I like that approach, quite a bit, the second part mostly but that first part seems like the right ticket too.:thumbsup:

I generally work pretty clean (unless it's a vacant in which case I may push hard and slob out for a couple days at a time) and HOs definitely seem to appreciate it, there is often the sound of relief in their voice when they comment on it. I could see where coming in and busting out all the power gear and leaving almost no trace of the days work could really up the magician factor.

Sold.:notworthy

 

[Dustyrose]

How much labor will this tool save you and how often will you use it when this job is complete? If the purchase makes sense, buy the Festool.

 

[john5mt]

Yeah, I told this woman about five times so far "now sanding is going to make dust", she keeps saying "I know". I think her actual tolerance (she is a neat freak) is about one degree above zero. Anything short of leaving her house immaculate at the end of the day may cause her head to explode.

Head explosions before the final check gets written are decidedly sub-optimal.

Better throw in some third hands with that festool setup

http://www.coastaltool.com/other/fastcap/3rd_hand.htm

 

[MikeNeufeld]

http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-1294VSK...ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1247318889&sr=8-1

What about something like this..

 

[moorewarner]

http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-1294VSK...ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1247318889&sr=8-1

What about something like this..

Yeah that falls in the same category with the Multimaster, though prob. better at sanding a lot of work.

It's half the price but unlike the Multi there are no attachments for profiles, just flatwork.

The Festool seems to be the one that best meets all the objectives and will probably give the best result.

A corner/detail sander is on the list though, thanks for throwin' it in for consideration.

Warner has the right ticket, factor the Festool into the bid, forget the price, and bask in the ecstasy of some German engineering love.