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MY very first post ,,, why do you guys give away all the free advice ,i been shingleing with 30 year union men we do 60sq in 8 hrs plywood and all ,but we know tricks and most of them are here allready ,today i sat in the sun and watched them go at it ,just like being,there.timmo58 its not how fast you are,, its,, does it leak?or not !
 

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My father used to work for the roofing union. Said the two most important decisions in his roofing career to date was first quitting his father in laws huge factory job and then quitting the union.

He's been self employed as a roofing contractor for the past 25 years. His getting close to 50 and it's not about the money for him anymore, it's about retirement and making enough to live happy not rich. When he see's me go go go he remembers what it was like when he was my age. 20 years straight Monday-Saturday sun up till sun down (unless it was raining, snowing, hunting season or ice fishing!).
 

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lol,this kills me.some serious smoke getting blown here,lol.probably the best thing to do is a good job.do it enough and you will get fast.the little things work the best,how you put your gun down,if you do.which side your shingles are on,standing ,sitiing,left-right,right-left.
if you got to ask how to get faster then you've got some more to learn.
anyone can be fast when there is nothing to go around.
 

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The best advice that I can give is to think ahead. Continually go through in your mind what your next step will be and how you will go about it and figure out exactily what you will need and how to do it in the least number of steps.

I'm 41 and overweight but I can put down twice as many shingles as most young guns.

Learn your details so well you could do them blindfolded.
 

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I agree with Kirk.

My best laborers are the ones that have what I need before I ask for them. Usually the're not laborers for long as they start laying shingles before most. My 17 year old cousin is the first person in this catagory that comes to mind.

Some laborers must think I'm crazy as things are said so fast and often. After doing it so long you don't have to really think anymore.
 

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Not all union guys are lazy. I like having the unions in my marketplace. I was even going to join until I found out that the business owner could not work on the roofs.
 

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What would you use all those lines for? Having trouble shingling straight?
Since I only roof an occassional family members or mine, about 1 roof every 5+ years, I figured I could use the extra help. Tho, be using dimensional so more forgiving.

What I really need help w/ is how the h3ll to add intake vent w/o overhang on a 1934 1.5 story cape cod in Michigan. Side attic, dead air knee walls, 2 seperate top attic areas, 5 gables, dormers, 2nd story flat roof walkout, etc. (I like gable ranch roofs better). :thumbup:

Ridge vent vs gable vs mushroom?????????

Synthetic vs traditional felt????????????

Just spent hours trying to figure out via internet and my head hurts. I'll post a new thread about it when I recover.
 

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I like the tape,but that was funny.it works great for new guys.I like it when it's a really long roof and someone is helping.
 

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sparkie, ridge vent and be done with it.

Intake is not absolutely neccessary. I think a regular vent works, one for every 150 square feet of attic floor space. Find out what ridge vent works for and you're set.

Intake does work better, but not needed for the IRC 2006 code.
 

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Thinking ahead is number one. Snapping lines is needed. You can keep things straight with practice but lines keep you aligned over valleys and dormers ect.... Number 2 IM RIGHT HANDED so I pick shingles from my left and nail with the right I spread bundles I need in advance up my left side and work to the right. Do the opposite if your lefty. Open the bundle and slide half down so you can always reach after a while the whole system flows quickly like muscle memory. I run edge shingles on both sides for Arch shingles. The start is patterned that runs even with my edge and right is trimmed as I go with snips. There is almost no waste using your leftover cuts for the next row. I also run 2 rows wide at one time with all shingle types and Arch I run on angle. It works for me some guys run one at time and one verticle row at a time. I started this way years ago but changed to 2 row. I found it stays straighter.
It all takes time good nailing habits with the gun are critical. Especially with Arch types I hate to see guys nailing different all the time and putting nails where seams land on 3 step patterens.
 

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what are Landmarks?
It's the Certainteed's laminte shingle.

I use mostly Lomanco's painted galvanized air vents. They are flat sided so when using with laminate shingles make installation easy even when cold. Plus with the metal you can use the nail gun to install. Aluminum vents work good to but show more hail then metal.

Been putting on more and more ridge vent lately but still aren't convinced with it. Over the past few years have learned that as little plastic on the roof the better, most ridge vent is plastic. Try to install ridge vent in the middle of Winter with a nail gun.

Since last Fall I've switched my felt over entirely to Certainteeds Roofers Sellect 15#. It cost almost double what I can buy felt for in the big box store but I like running Certainteed Winterguard and Roofers Sellect. Lays flat, needs less tacks, rarely blows off, and doesn't get wavy when wet.
 

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Aaron,

As a business "sole proprietor", there is a way around the not working on the jobs supposed rule. I did it, and worked with my alter ego union company for several years until I got tired of the travel hassles with the kind of new construction I was into. PM me if you want more information.

Then there is this side of the coin to consider also;

If you operate a corporation, then you are not the "owner", but just an employee.

Ed
 
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