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Tiny Home Craze is Officially Over.

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hahaha...Zillow vs Trulia

https://www.trulia.com/blog/could-the-tiny-home-life-be-for-you/

AT A GLANCE
As the tiny house movement gains momentum, states and cities are updating their codes to make it easier to build—and live in—tiny homes.
As a result, entire communities of tiny homes are on the rise. There are now more than 50, by our count.


And some sobering facts:
http://nahbnow.com/2018/01/what-mil...-home-buyers-want/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=1-0129&utm_campaign=MMB2018

It’s all about location, location, location – with a dash or two of compromise – as millennials, the nation’s largest demographic group at 90 million strong, is poised to dominate the home buying market.

The challenge for home builders is to create a product that this generation wants but that can still afford as first-time buyers, the presenters said. In fact, 21 percent of millennials surveyed said they haven’t bought a home yet because they can’t afford one, period.

Three/two still rules. A home with three bedrooms and two bathrooms is the most preferred, and 1,000 square feet is the minimum. That third bedroom can be a loft area or study nook if space is at a premium, however.

Uptick in square footage - likely temporary.

It's the last hurrah for the Boomers and the older Millennials.
 
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hahaha...Zillow vs Trulia

https://www.trulia.com/blog/could-the-tiny-home-life-be-for-you/

AT A GLANCE
As the tiny house movement gains momentum, states and cities are updating their codes to make it easier to build—and live in—tiny homes.
As a result, entire communities of tiny homes are on the rise. There are now more than 50, by our count.


And some sobering facts:
http://nahbnow.com/2018/01/what-mil...-home-buyers-want/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=1-0129&utm_campaign=MMB2018

It’s all about location, location, location – with a dash or two of compromise – as millennials, the nation’s largest demographic group at 90 million strong, is poised to dominate the home buying market.

The challenge for home builders is to create a product that this generation wants but that can still afford as first-time buyers, the presenters said. In fact, 21 percent of millennials surveyed said they haven’t bought a home yet because they can’t afford one, period.

Three/two still rules. A home with three bedrooms and two bathrooms is the most preferred, and 1,000 square feet is the minimum. That third bedroom can be a loft area or study nook if space is at a premium, however.

Uptick in square footage - likely temporary.

It's the last hurrah for the Boomers and the older Millennials.
An average of one tiny house community per state... :clap: :laughing:

The tiny house is just another version of a trailer park... even trailer homes are larger...

While you can find a subset of any group among a population of 300+ Million people, the thing that works against Tiny houses IMHO is the same market dynamic that the trailer parks run into.. both may serve a need/purpose, but their value is dependent on the actual housing market... Tiny houses would only increase in value because of the surrounding communities (and it's more the land)... the surrounding communities don't increase in value because of Tiny houses...

And the market dictates it... probably why the threshold for Tiny houses seems to be expanding in SF according to your article...

But people have different reasons for different size homes... kind of like a shop... you're all excited when you move into your 1200SF shop from a garage of 400SF, until you realize how much more you could do with more space...
 
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Not in Colorado. They are popping up everywhere. And just about every builder or half-ass guy with a hammer and a truck are offering to build them for people. Counties are cracking don and banning them (which I diasgree with) but there's till plenty of plaes to build these overpriced huts.

I did a walk thru on a couple of these models. I was not impressed with the available living space, poor quality off work or the price tags. I couldn't imgaine two people trying to live in on these things, let alone a family.

You can buy a high end bumper or gooseneck trailer with multiple slide-outs for less..and get more square footage.

But they are very popular right now here in CO. A large trailer park not far from me is building a boatload of them on their RV sites. The chump in charge of this "little" operation offered me 25 per hour to help build him. I laughed.
 
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A large trailer park not far from me is building a boatload of them on their RV sites.
Well, you're most likely not going to find them popping up along side homes in a development... especially one with an HOA...

Well, maybe as a fort or fancy storage shed... :whistling :laughing:

But heck, people are turning containers into places to live...

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To each their own...
 
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In my opinion, its not over, its just starting. I downsized to 1800 sq. ft. Although I couldn't handle 400 sq. ft., I can handle it part time. 1800 was hard enough. At least for myself, wife, kid in college, and kid in 7th grade. When I get older, who knows.

I can see this going a while longer. Not a great thing, but a thing.

I know a "contractor"/"home builder"/ " scam artist" / "Apostolic Christian" selling a 14' x 35' shed for $90,000. Built super cheap and has a waiting list for this stuff.

It's not gone yet.
 
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This is like saying that a rise in minivan sales means pickups are officially over.
I don't see how a sales trend or average means that tiny houses are over. ...or that they're taking over. Tiny house ain't for me, but neither is a McMansion. If either work for you or your customers, then great.
 
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Agreed... to each his own... but it's not even a trend really... more a novelty/niche... just pushed and reported by people who live in much bigger houses as an option for OTHER people... but highly unlikely that they wouldn't want them in THEIR neighborhood... :no:
 
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One thing I do like about the tiny home things is their lower cost. (although I still think they are overpriced)

I'd rather see a young couple have a $50-60k mortgage or build it themselves fr even less then get stuck in a 30 year note for 250-300k. The same goes for an elederly couple or people on low incomes.


BTW, I lived in 20 foot round teepee for 7 years. It was quite an experience. After doing that I want nothing to do with living in such a small space. ;)
 

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I chit you not...and this is at 9000 feet up in the CO Rockies. I've written a lot of notes over those years, about my challenges (survival), the freedom it gave me, as I expereinced a simple way of life..and still found happiness. I hope to write a book on those special times.

Our home, my GSD Cheeko and I (RIP to Cheeko 2004-2013, the best dog ever)
 

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Inside was pretty damm cozy, a bunk, tub, double sink, small propane fridge and 3 burner stove and oven, all stripped out an old truck camper. No power or running water. After a few cold winters I framed the inside in and insulated the walls. And brought in a small wood stove.

Tiny Homes? My experience was like living in a 12x12 room...lol. A bitter-sweet experience.
 

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Yep..and my driving force was to be debt free. Which I am now and everything I do to finish my cabin is done with cash. My bills (phone, vehicle, etc) are minimal. A great way to set myself up for retirement as I'm taking my SS in 2 years. Yet still putter around with small jobs.

After living in 100 sf in the teepee, my 750 sf cabin is like a McMansion !
 
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I guess I don't understand how the minimalist living behind the tiny house thing makes your life better... even taking into consideration the lower cost for the Tiny house, you still need property, utility hook-ups, etc. it seems to add much more un-needed activity to the daily routine to make it work...

To each his own, but...



 
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You know its gone mainstream when the new chic is to rent one for a vacation. Move over Bed & Breakfast!

http://www.mlive.com/expo/erry-2018/03/0e70123507/tiny_houses_rent_in_michigan.html

25 adorable tiny houses to rent in Michigan
By Emily Bingham | ebingham@mlive.com | Posted March 08, 2018 at 02:51 PM
If you've been dreaming of a simple getaway, look no further: These pint-sized rentals across Michigan are as sweet as can be. From adorable A-frames to true tiny homes that are smaller than some walk-in closets, each of these abodes dishes up tons of character in minimal square footage, making them perfect for a solo escape or a cozy retreat with a romantic partner or best pal.
 
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On a related note, just signed a contract for a job to build a "she-shed." For those of you who haven't heard of this trend yet, it's basically the answer to the man cave, only in a shed out in the yard.

By the time the lady got done describing the 10*18 "shed" with shuttered windows and insulation, etc, plus a 108 Sq foot roofed porch on it, I realized we were basically building a tiny house without electricity.

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A she shed? They have the whole house! That's the whole reason for a man cave.

The tiny home thing seems to me to be a reaction to the big home thing. People like to buy more sf than they need and all the costs and maintenance to go with it. Homes have gotten bigger over the years and people accumulate a lot of stuff with cheap imports. For me the answer is somewhere in between.