Doin an addition had to have a sub panel placed. Architect pulled a boner and marked a 8x8 room as a closet on the prints where he had the panel placed. So of course inspector comes and says nope not gonna let you put a panel in a closet. In the bathroom at the end of the tub is a "utility room" for the stackable washer and hot water tank. The rocket scientist comes up with the bright idea to put the panel in the same wall as the shower valve. :laughing: I mean does this sound as stupid to anyone else as it does to me? The wall the panel was gonna be on in the "closet" was where the door would swing into so nothing could cover it, plenty of clear space around it. I know you cant have a panel in a closet but is it really better to put it where he wants it?
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What is the 8'x8' room truley for? If it truley is a closet, then you're out of luck. But if it really, truley, really is something like a office, then it could be wise to have the architect do a resubmittal.
maybe
maybe
Atm its a ?? room so thats why architect put closet. Hey if it makes the inspector happy to put it in a tub wall so someone can lean on the washer to flip a breaker or work in the panel so be it. Its just one of those things that annoys me because the next guy thats comes along is gonna give it a "wtf who puts a panel here" then our's and the electricians name is on it. I guess its more a vent at how stubborn inspectors can be.
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As long as there's no clearance issues (110.26), the panel can go in a closet. (unless you're building a mobile/manufactured home)
There's no restriction about putting a panel in the same wall as plumbing.
Really? i dont know the code that well, not really my gig. Sometimes i think these guys just make chit up to sound important.
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There are some that do. They have their own way of doing things, and believe that's what the Code says. Other like to quote what I call "Shirt Pocket" codes.
That's not really playing fair, is it.......what about: 240.24(D) ?
Yeah i def agree with that. We have one inspector for everything though that we have a good working relationship with. He trusts our plumber enough he doesnt even look at his work, most of the times we call him he says he'll stop out at some point but just keep goin ahead so cant really complain to much.
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Strange. I was second-guessing myself on this one so I did a search of the NEC. That section didn't come up.
Now I know a little secret about the NEC on CD........ if you search for closet, it will not show you closets.
So what the article I asked about?
Are panels allowed in closet/s?
*TIP*
Search for "closet" ....use the quotes....I'm pretty sure any variations will show up :thumbsup:
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I reckin not.
Nope. Nothing in Chapter 2 at all.
But a search for closet* finds both closet and closets. Interesting and totally baffling search algorittm to say the least.
Thanks for letting the OP know that :whistling
* that was it!
The folio software doesn't seem to work with Vista for me
Searching a PDF for closet will show all.:thumbsup:
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Thanks for letting the OP know that :whistling
* that was it!
The folio software doesn't seem to work with Vista for me
Searching a PDF for closet will show all.:thumbsup:
I rarely use the .pdf version. I prefer the functions of the Folio View, especially when it comes to the tables.
As do I, but the XP laptop is on sabbatical ~ so you make do with what you have.
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cant put a panel in a clothes closet but u can put it in other closets
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jurisdiction has final word
240.24 Location in or on Premises.
(A) Accessibility. Overcurrent devices shall be readily
accessible and shall be installed so that the center of the
grip ofthe operating handle of the switch or circuit breaker,
when in its highest position, is not more than 2.0 m (6 ft 7
in.) above the floor or working platform unless one of the
following applies:
(A) Accessibility. Overcurrent devices shall be readily
accessible and shall be installed so that the center of the
grip ofthe operating handle of the switch or circuit breaker,
when in its highest position, is not more than 2.0 m (6 ft 7
in.) above the floor or working platform unless one of the
following applies:
2007 California Electrical Code
(1) For busways, as provided in 368.12.
(2) For supplementary overcurrent protection, as described
in 240.10.
(3) For overcurrent devices, as described in 225.40 and
230.92.
(4) For overcurrent devices adjacent to utilization
equipment that they supply, access shall be permitted
to be by portable means.
(B) Occupancy. Each occupant shall have ready access to
all overcurrent devices protecting the conductors supplying
that occupancy.
(2) For supplementary overcurrent protection, as described
in 240.10.
(3) For overcurrent devices, as described in 225.40 and
230.92.
(4) For overcurrent devices adjacent to utilization
equipment that they supply, access shall be permitted
to be by portable means.
(B) Occupancy. Each occupant shall have ready access to
all overcurrent devices protecting the conductors supplying
that occupancy.
Exception No.1: Where electric service and electrical
main.tenance are provided by the building management and
where these are under continuous building management
supervision, the service overcurrent devices and feeder
overcurrent devices supplying more than one occupancy
shall be permitted to be accessible to only authorized
managementpersonnel in the following:
(1) Multiple-occupancy buildings
(2) Guest rooms or guest suites ofhotels and motels that
are intendedfor transient occupancy
Exception No.2: Where electric service and electrical
m'izintenance are provided by the building management and
where these are under continuous building management
supervision, the bri:mch circuit overcurrent devices
supplying any guest rooms or guest suites shall be
permitted to be accessible to only authorized management
personnel for guest rooms of hotels and motels that are
intendedfor transient occupancy.
main.tenance are provided by the building management and
where these are under continuous building management
supervision, the service overcurrent devices and feeder
overcurrent devices supplying more than one occupancy
shall be permitted to be accessible to only authorized
managementpersonnel in the following:
(1) Multiple-occupancy buildings
(2) Guest rooms or guest suites ofhotels and motels that
are intendedfor transient occupancy
Exception No.2: Where electric service and electrical
m'izintenance are provided by the building management and
where these are under continuous building management
supervision, the bri:mch circuit overcurrent devices
supplying any guest rooms or guest suites shall be
permitted to be accessible to only authorized management
personnel for guest rooms of hotels and motels that are
intendedfor transient occupancy.
(C) Not Exposed to Physical Damage. Overcurrent
devices shall be located where they will not be exposed to
/' physical damage.
devices shall be located where they will not be exposed to
/' physical damage.
FPN:
See 110.11, Deteriorating Agents.
(D) Not in Vicinity of Easily Ignitible Material.
Overcurrent devices shall not be located in the vicinity of
easily ignitible material, such as in clothes closets.
(E) Not Located in Bathrooms. In dwelling units and
guest rooms or guest suites of hotels and motels,
overcurrent devices, other than supplementary overcurrent
protection, shall not be located in bathrooms.Overcurrent devices shall not be located in the vicinity of
easily ignitible material, such as in clothes closets.
(E) Not Located in Bathrooms. In dwelling units and
guest rooms or guest suites of hotels and motels,
overcurrent devices, other than supplementary overcurrent
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One Man, are you aware of the dates of some of the posts you are replying to?
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Methinks it's a troll.
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