I own a fence installation company. I had a subcontractor install a $7000.00 job for me. The customer called the day of install and wanted another $5000 worth of fence. The sub undercut me and installed the job. I currently owe this sub $1200 for another job. What would everyone do?
Sub contractor stole job
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Keep it? Its not yours; he did what he was hired to do. But fire him and not call him again? Maybe; depends if he can make you money in the future or not. If you know he cant then buh bye. But dont be a thief because he valued short term money over a long term relationship. Perhaps he took the job cause he had a feeling you were looking for a reason to stiff him already?
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So you advocate theft?
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Eric, you would be wrong for keeping it. That is theft of services.
As for the OP. What does your contract say? No Contract? No Clause? Sounds like you learned your lesson.
As for the OP. What does your contract say? No Contract? No Clause? Sounds like you learned your lesson.
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the ho honoured your original contract, no?
and decided to go with someone else for another job,no?
and went with someone you sometimes give work to, no?
wheres the problem?
i don't think you own him.
you bid, he bid, you lost, suck it up
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So if they have a non compete, what is the penalty for competing?kuke0020 said:
Pay him the $1200 and terminate your relationship with him. Also, if you have good relationships with other contractors, don't be afraid to tell the truth about why you guys no longer work together if you're asked.
Pay him and then loose his number. I had a sub try to do that to me. I found out that every time i left the job he was giving out his card to everyone he could and saying he could beat my prices. I just don't use him anymore, and neither do any of the guys he tried to weasel from me
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1st Pay him what you owe him...
If ya'll haven't already had a talk, now's the time.
I use a couple of Subs regularly. We have a good understanding about this kind of thing. If someone approaches him about a fence while he is working on one of my jobs, he hands them my business card.
If they pressure him to go around me, he politely tells them that he's not willing jeopardize the relationship he has with me, for one job.
If he refers them to me and they buy, I make sure he gets to install the job, and also give him a little extra $$.
He knows that I take care of him, so he takes care of me.
If he's not will to take care of you, send him down the road.
If ya'll haven't already had a talk, now's the time.
I use a couple of Subs regularly. We have a good understanding about this kind of thing. If someone approaches him about a fence while he is working on one of my jobs, he hands them my business card.
If they pressure him to go around me, he politely tells them that he's not willing jeopardize the relationship he has with me, for one job.
If he refers them to me and they buy, I make sure he gets to install the job, and also give him a little extra $$.
He knows that I take care of him, so he takes care of me.
If he's not will to take care of you, send him down the road.
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How do you supply insurance for a sub?
You can have liability insurance extend to subcontracted services.
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Thanks for the lesson. I already know that you can, but why would you. If they are legit, no reason to extend anything to them.
Sorry, that sounded bad...just meant "How" as in what would be the reason for it.
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Never do something for someone as a favor and expect anything in return.
No idea.
The main reason I do is so that just in case something happens I've crossed all of my t's. The extra $200 a year is well worth it to prevent someone from finding some loop hole and me losing everything. The subs are required to have thier own liability and commercial auto.
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