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step tread edges

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What would be a good way to fasten step tread edging like this so there is not a lot of screw heads showing? I am going to a deck for my daughter and don't want to do all the extra framing for picture framing and thought this might be a decent alternative.
Is there a glue that works for composite decking and maybe stainless steel brads? I use a lot of the Starbond captor screws but try to use them sparingly but that's what I will use if i have to. Or maybe small GRK trim heads sunk below the surface and some color match caulk to fill the small hole.
I am using Timbertech dark cocoa. Maybe they make color match plugs but plugs are usually wood grain and I think the edge of composite decking is smooth.
 
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#6 · (Edited)
  • Pocket screw underneath.
  • Trim screw from outside.
  • Glue with biscuit, dowel or domino.
 
#8 ·
Galvanized tie plate on the bottom of the tread sticking out what ever distance you need. Install tread, install end cap with screws from the bottom.


Screw through the miter and back of the riser will prevent droop.

thinking about it you could install all of the tie plates on the stringers prior to installing the treads.

Tom
 
#10 ·
Thanks for the replies. I’ll have to put some thought to how I’ll do it. Pocket screws would be great but I don’t know if they will work because the decking is scalloped on the bottom so I’ll have to see if I can pocket screw it.
 
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So 3 places to pocket screw.
 
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Do pocket screws in composite even hold like those in wood? I've never tested it. Anyway, pocket screws to the side, as Leo indicated. But you might be able to put screws through the scallop to the front with the right length and angle. I would also use whatever adhesive is compatible to help prevent the nosing on the front from breaking off from people stepping on it. You'd have to preassemble the treads with this method. You're not going to have enough overhang to the side over the stringer to pocket screw after installing the tread or to catch the corners on the front.

You could make your own plugs from edge grain scrap and face screw it. I'd use adhesive with that as well. This is what I would do.
 
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Do pocket screws in composite even hold like those in wood? I've never tested it. Anyway, pocket screws to the side, as Leo indicated. But you might be able to put screws through the scallop to the front with the right length and angle. I would also use whatever adhesive is compatible to help prevent the nosing on the front from breaking off from people stepping on it. You'd have to preassemble the treads with this method. You're not going to have enough overhang to the side over the stringer to pocket screw after installing the tread or to catch the corners on the front.

You could make your own plugs from edge grain scrap and face screw it. I'd use adhesive with that as well. This is what I would do.
The lead tread would not have an applied bullnose. It's pretty notched.
Composite mushrooms terribly. Maybe pre drill a couple of sizes down so it just screw threads bitting. Shrug
 
#16 · (Edited)
So the front of the tread uses a jack miter to connect the side nosing? The front tread in the picture appeared longer in depth than the one against the riser, minus the nosing. It looks like an applied nosing all around. In any case. if the front nosing is part of the tread, then what's the issue? You could attach the sides however you want since they will never see any foot traffic.
 
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No one would be stepping on the stair edge it’s only the side that would need finished. I’ll do some samples with pocket screws. Never thought about making my own plugs I have different size plug cutters but don’t use them that often. I think I even have a quarter inch plug cutters so maybe I’ll also sample some GRK trim heads with quarter inch plugs. I have painted the ends on some jobs in the past but it was full 5/4 decking not scalloped.
i also thought about putting a small bead of brown quad for an adhesive that stuff really bonds.
 
#23 ·
Load it up with 2P10R and smoosh them together.
 
#27 ·
I like Tom’s idea of the tie plates. With incorporating adhesive I feel it would be the sure fire way things line up and stay lined up.
The right adhesive, tacked with a brad nailer, then set with trim screws or hand driven trim nails is like the lazy dowel system that I think would be easy enough to conceal and go unnoticed.
 
#30 ·
Looks like a particle board mixture not PVC
 
#33 ·
Was just going to say is it done yet?