[Inner10]

If you don't have the depth and you can't anchor into whatever is behind the drywall use a wall driller.

I've gotten rid off all hollow wall fasteners except nylon wall drillers and snap toggles.:thumbsup:

 

[Inner10]

Why nylon. I assume cause those at least expand versus the metal ones....

All I carry is snap toggles. Just looking to standardize on a #8 lightweight application.

They are more forgiving with the type of fastener and you can run a screw right through them. Conversely they can explode if you try to drill them into double drywall. In that case I use my Phillips bit like a pilot drill and then drive in the wall-driller. Snap toggles are slower and more expensive than wall-drillers, wall drillers are the fastest easiest cheapest drywall anchor going and for light duty applications they are ideal.

I probably use 10 wall drillers for ever snap toggle.

 

[Inner10]

Going point on double rock ! It was never even on my radar

Im going to pick up a pack of Toggler TC and joe blow Molly's to compare.

They are junk, I actually bought a bag of 300 of the plastic ones and they are complete crap. If I find it and I didn't throw them out I will send them to you. They don't pull tight and stay tight. It's hard to describe but they are only secure when you really snug them up, it's just an all-around bad design for an anchor.

Molly anchors are good, but they have nothing on the Toggler:

 

[Inner10]

Yeah, but we're talking abut anchors for #8 - lightweight stuff. 5/16 hole, #8 in....

These are the ones I bought a giant bag of, they are a 3/8" pilot #6/8 screw IIRC.

http://www.hilti.com/holcom/page/mo...il.jsf?lang=en&nodeId=-11619&selProdOid=10862

Junk...

 

[Inner10]

Isn't that what you posted as your recommendation - nylon wall driver....

Wall Drivers to me are just that style ?

I must of mis-read. What wall drivers did you mean...

Wall driller:

 

[Inner10]

Those are the worst.

If by worst you mean best for all light duty applications I agree.

 

[Inner10]

No disrespect meant, Inner. Were we talking "light duty" here? Sure, they're quick, but they are the first ones to need replacing unless it's "light duty & no movement". I wouldn't use them for towel rods, TP holders, robe hooks, mirrors etc. or anything like that. Disagree?

Nope completely agree, but for mounting the side of an alarm can that doesn't hit the stud, or wireless access points they are perfect!

 

[Inner10]

I have a funny story, I putting a sound system a coffee shop chain and one of the employees asked me if I had any wall driller anchors, I tossed him a box.

As I'm putting a speaker in the bathroom I see he's installing grab bars with them! I laughed and told him he was an idiot.

6 months later I was taking a piss and saw 2 drywall patches where they ripped out.