[aclark3]

So I am having a discussion with our contractor in reference to the completion of the Red Tag information on the front of their tag. Date, CP Name and Signature and Comments. They are under the impression it does not need to be filled out since a date and initials are on the back of the tag. I am not seeing any OSHA requirement on what needs to be documented on the tag. The only thing it is being requested on the tag. I would like to hear how others would handle this situation. We have asked the contractor to supply their scaffolding policy.

Appreciate the look see.

Al

 

[Joe Fairplay]

The front of the tag should be filed out. The reason it is needed is because it needs to be known who the competent person is claiming the scaffold to be dangerous.
How else would you know who you need to speak with about the reason the competent person placed the tag to begin with?
What exactly makes it non compliant and how do I rectify it, would be a question you may want to ask them.
If you disagreed with the red tag, how else would you know who to confront, for lack of a better term.
Whomever placed the tag should be the one who removes it after mitigation of the safety hazard occurs.
You can't just pop red tags on things making claims about non compliance without identifying yourself. (unless your a municipal building inspector because they have very little accountability)
It is how we make informed decisions on if said person is competent to make the call.
The back of the tag is simply a log for daily inspections which can be signed by different people on different days.

 

[Half-fast Eddie]

which can be signed by different people on different days.

As long as they are a CP qualified to sign it.

 

[wallmaxx]

Are you the client or somehow in the building process as a general?

 

[hdavis]

Some companies have a separate document covering tag out procedures for equipment, since it's required for each applicable piece of equipment.

 

[Half-fast Eddie]

If that scaffolding is rented, and a CP has red tagged it ... needs to be sent back. Get it off the site.

 

[aclark3]

Are you the client or somehow in the building process as a general?

We are the client.

 

[aclark3]

If that scaffolding is rented, and a CP has red tagged it ... needs to be sent back. Get it off the site.

The sub owns the scaffolding. The CP had initialed the back and now they are not even working on the site.

 

[Half-fast Eddie]

The sub owns the scaffolding. The CP had initialed the back and now they are not even working on the site.

Still needs to be taken off the site. If someone else uses the scaffold, maybe neighborhood kids climbing on it, gets hurt … and you knew the scaffold was not safe ...

 

[aclark3]

Still needs to be taken off the site. If someone else uses the scaffold, maybe neighborhood kids climbing on it, gets hurt … and you knew the scaffold was not safe ...

Good point, however for us its in an access controlled area. So being open to the public is not a concern.

 

[Joe Fairplay]

Good point, however for us its in an access controlled area. So being open to the public is not a concern.

You are right. You should leave the unsafe scaffold on your property for as long as possible.

 

[aclark3]

So just as a follow up, the reason the GC had them red tag the system was because they did not have the required documentation for the job. (Not the red tag) They had been working on the scaffold and everything was operational. If the scaffold would have been in a non operational condition, to your point we would have had them take it down.

 

[Half-fast Eddie]

(delete)

 

[Pompanosix]

Call the rental company and ask them to provide the documentation asap. They should have it readily y available. If they can't, call it off, tell them you want it picked up now, and document everything jic it becomes a liability issue.

 

[BLangley]

Buddy of mine died last year after a scaffolding failure dropped him and a coworker 5 or 6 stories. OSHA just finished investigating and dinged the contractor for not taking it out of service after knowing there were issues with it.

His wife and kids probably have their choice of attorneys willing to hound after everyone involved with the scaffolding.

 

[Bad Boy Biker]

Just keep using a red tagged scaffolding. What could go wrong? If someone gets hurt OSHA will help you.