Virtually never pay an employee by the hour nor a salary unless you absolutely have to.Does anyone here pay an employee salary pay?
Hopefully one of those rare exceptions is when they work more than 40 hrs in a week, 'cause that's the law.For my employees they have an expected amount of work to complete they work overtime with no extra pay when they do not complete a reasonable amount of work. There are very rare exceptions where I pay overtime.
Piecework is also how subs are able to use illegals, not provide workmen's comp, pay payroll taxes, etc etc.Whats the difference as long as the paycheck
Is the same or more. Piecework doesn't just Provide the owner a fixed cost. To a motivated employee its a path to higher earnings.
The fact that it is a technicality is why you wont lose in court.You get by with it on a technicality, but if it got challenged you would lose in court.
You may want to read this.For my employees they have an expected amount of work to complete they work overtime with no extra pay when they do not complete a reasonable amount of work. There are very rare exceptions where I pay overtime.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but if I worked for you, and I normally worked 40 hours per week, for $20/hour ($800), and then one week I worked 60 hours are you saying you would drop my pay to $11.42/hour so that my total was the same $800?Not if he sets thejr base pay at minimum wage.
It is not a matter of taking advantage of the employer. It is all about motivation and what you are suggesting is that we live in an ideal world where the majority of employees are top producers.Not everybody who gets paid by the hour takes advantage of the employer. I've worked with truly great people when I ran jobs for other companies and they worked extremely hard, were motivated, dedicated and strived to get jobs under the bid hours.
But those companies had a culture worthy of respect. They treated employees well and respectfully..... and the employees returned the favor.
Scumbag employers have employees who have no vested interest in protecting the company.
What your idea is seems fit for what your describing . Salary for him in that roll of Forman , project guy would work for me .BamBamm5144 said:Some of you know two years ago I had two crews running 11 guys. That got to be way too much of a headache so I let some guys go and ran one crew. As guys quit or found new jobs, I never bothered much to look for replacements because it's too time consuming. The beginning of this year I started with four and am now down to two, both whom have been with me over three years now. Yesterday one approached me about a life change they are contemplating on making. This guy loves the woods and has a job offer up north. I told him he should jump on it and I'll have a job waiting if it doesn't work out. That leaves my main one guy who has been running crews for me for two years. I am thinking of paying him a salary a year to oversee the day to day stuff in regard to subcontractors, picking up materials, doing repairs, etc. Our average work week seems to be right around 36 hours and his average gross pay is right around 800. Some weeks more some less so I was thinking of offering him a salary at this rate per week. One issue with hourly is that one man can't do most of the jobs we do by themselves. I'm not sure what way I want to take this but he has always been hardworking, honest and loyal so I want to keep him around.
When you work by the piece or percent nobody counts the hours and that is the greatest part. If an employee can get 40 hours of work done in 20 hours he can go home at noon every day and make $80 per hour. This is very possible at my shop and it happens.Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but if I worked for you, and I normally worked 40 hours per week, for $20/hour ($800), and then one week I worked 60 hours are you saying you would drop my pay to $11.42/hour so that my total was the same $800?
That's illegal and it's a bunch of BS.
It's one thing if a guy is a true salaried employee and expects to work a little OT once in a while for free, but in return, if he misses a day once in a while he gets paid anyway.
If you pay hourly or piece-work and you do that to your employees, they should all have a meeting with you. And you should feel lucky if you WALK out of the meeting.
But of course, maybe I misunderstood....I hope so. :thumbsup:
This article is saying that some contractors are not are purposely trying to piece jobs to pay less than minimum wage and employers should take an employee's pay and divide the number of hours he worked to make sure he is earning at least minimum wage.You may want to read this.