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55K views 325 replies 45 participants last post by  donerightwyo  
#1 ·
That is what the homeowner said to me the other day when I came back to start on his new house.
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We are gonna save part of the garage roof and the walls. The walls are gonna be modified for the new house.

The mother in law quarters walls stay, but take the roof off.
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#41 ·
The architect was out today measuring and taking pictures. He told me I was within 1/4" of what the computer said on the roof line. I did it all with a framing square, tape measure, and a chalk line I am gonna get started actually putting the roof together soon. We will see .......
The rafters are going to be a combination of TJI's and deminsion lumber,so all these walls are built for different conditions. I hope it all works. I am really anxious to find out.
 
#45 ·
Nick,

There are many types of moments. I think you may be referring to bending moment from what you're asking. I will give the explanation a try. Other CT members, feel free to chime in here.

Generally, it isn't proper to describe moments without a context. The context is important because not all moments are resulting from the same conditions. A moment is not a force that pushes anything, it is the result of a force, or forces, applied over a length component. Alternately, you could think of a moment as the reaction of an object of forces against it. (I pushed on an object and it did this...)

Think of the bending moment as a way of describing the reaction of a structural member under load. When a structural member is loaded, even under its own mass, there is a resulting bending moment; Failure of the structural member is when the bending moment exceeds the tensile/shear capacities of the material. The failure isn't due to the bending moment, but loading. Bending moment also changes based on how that load is applied to the structural member; Think point load vs. distributed load. It is an iterative way to describe the reaction of all forces acting on a specific structural member.

Consider a basic roof truss for a minute. The load from the upper portions of the truss structure are transferred to the bottom chord of the truss through all your webbing and whatnot. That bottom chord receives that loading at a lot of different points instead of just one point in the middle, right? If all of the load from above was transferred to the middle of the bottom chord, all that loading (force) at one point would create a bending moment that would exceed the capacity of the material, meaning material failure. But by transferring that loading (same force) through webbing, etc., across the length of the bottom chord, the resulting bending moment does not exceed the capacity of the material, so no failure.

The truss example is simply to try to explain the concept, but in reality, calculating bending moment takes a good command of calculus and differential equations. It is not a straightforward algebraic function, and is highly specific to the characteristics of the material and how load is applied to the material.

That's my attempt at explaining it, but maybe some of our resident mechanical/civil/structural engineers might be able to explain it in an easier to understand way.

Hope that helps,

Ollie
 
#62 ·
Though I may be wrong, ease of access of passing things up from the deck below?

We do this for sheeting roofs, always leave a hatch out. But in the original thread for this build, I think I remember seeing knuck with a lift and grabbing his roof sheeting off of that.

I am probably wrong.
 
#69 ·
Jeezus, tell him to make up his freakin' mind already!:censored: Guess you wasted all that time with the sawzall cutting down that gable.:whistling

So now what, do you underframe the ceiling to the bottom of the beam, or furr the rafters down for insulation?