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Roof framing question

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#1 ·
I am building a 18x22 family room addition. This will be going on the right side of my 1 story ranch.
My current pitch is a 5/12 gable roof.
I have never done a roof system, 2 of my framing friends will help.
The addition will be tying into the original roof with a reverse gable. I am not going to frame the roof on both new top plates. I am going to make a more dramatic roof line. The outside right will lay on the new top plate but the left side will lay on the existing 5/12 roof.
The span will be 26'
12" soffit overhang
2x10 ridge beam
2x8 roof rafters
2x6 walls
The new roof will also be a 5/12
I would love some assistance on laying out the common rafters and ridge beam height.
 
#10 ·
You don't have to figure out the ridge height. All you have to do is set the two rafters on each end of the building nailed into the top plates and then slide your ridge up into it. The rafters set the ridge height.

In your case the ridge height would be 5' 10-1/2".

You have a run of 12' 5-3/4" from the inside of the 2x6 wall and the rise to the bottom of the rafter is 5' 2-3/8". Now you add the plumbcut of the 2x8 and that is 8-1/8" to the rise and that's 5' 10-1/2" to the top of the ridge.
 

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#7 ·
I'm not really following exactly what you're doing here, - - but the height of your ridge would be exactly how it sounds, - - 5" of heigth for every 12" of length, - - so if for instance, - - your ridge is perpendicular to the 18' wall, - - that would be '9' (half of the 18) X the 5", - - so it would be 45" high.

If the ridge is running perpendicular to your 22' wall, - - it would be '11' (half of the 22) X 5", - - which would be 55" inches high (above your top plate) . . .
 
#11 ·
Here is a very crude pictue of how I plan to have the addition look like. I literally cut and pasted this picture with my house and another house.
My current house ends on the right side where the stone on the right side of the front door ends. This is not to scale, but you can get the idea of what I am trying to accomplish. As you can see the new gable roof is not going to end on the left side of the new top plate. I am extending the new gable roof over to the existing roof to make a more dramatic look.
 

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#14 ·
The span I am talking about is the distance from the outside right top plate of the new addition to the spot on the the existing roof, just above the window.
I chose that spot because there is a similar ranch house like mine in my neighborhood that has this similar roof line. This is why I am having difficulty figuring out the rafter layout. It is not just as simple as figuring out the addition span which would be 18', that is the addition width. I am trying to make the house look bigger by framing the reverse gable over the existing roof. Hopefully the pictures will shop what I am taking about.
 
#16 ·
I don't think 2x8 can be used for 16' spans at 2' on center. As for supporting the existing roof. What would you support the rafters too the ceiling joists? that in effect would be building trusses. By doing that a engineer would have to be consulted because you are using the cj's to distribute the load which could cause drywall cracking in the future.

Personally if it were me I would go with trusses and have a girder built to catch the opposing side from the new wall. A package could be designed were you dont' even have to tear off the other roof. Of couse some over framing woud have to be done probably with 2x6's
In these parts trusses are cheaper than stick framing.
 
#27 ·
we measure our dicks in inches, not mm's.

silly boy, accuracy comes from the person running the show.
Well put Framerman, one big dick can easily oversee four or five little pricks and get the job done right:thumbsup:
 
#31 ·
it's funny how difficult it is to explain something so simple over the computer or in a classroom setting. Yet if most of us were on site, a scrap piece of wood, a worn out construction master, and few minutes later everything would make sense and those who are eagar to learn something would know exactly what is going to happen.
If everything is preped right and material is on site then it should only take two days for a good crew to blow that roof out. huh....
 
#33 ·
Finished Family room pic

Here is a picture of the finished family room on the right side of the house. It was actually done 2 years ago and I have another project I am about to start and saw the thread was still around. It was a great experience and I could not have been able to frame the roof system without Joe Carola's advice.
Thanks again Joe.
 

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#35 ·
Here is a picture of the finished family room on the right side of the house. It was actually done 2 years ago and I have another project I am about to start and saw the thread was still around. It was a great experience and I could not have been able to frame the roof system without Joe Carola's advice.
Thanks again Joe.
It looks Great!!

I'm glad I could help. It was nice meeting you that day. Good luck on the next one.