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any thoughts on which would last longer ?? also, when you set posts in concrete, is it better to coat the wood with anything (creasote) in terms of creating a longer lasting job ?
 

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any thoughts on which would last longer ?? also, when you set posts in concrete, is it better to coat the wood with anything (creasote) in terms of creating a longer lasting job ?
longevity depends on conditions. shouldn't really set your posts in concrete if you're concerned with longevity.
 

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Woooo I dident know any one else was up on that copper trick but me and Joe wood.

Far as the post goes, like what planet did you come from:party: J.
 

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Almost any legitimate treatment will lengthen the life of your posts. I don't think that we can get creosote here anymore. Coppergreen is what we use, in those instances.

Posts tend to rot at the top of the concrete, so make sure that you coat above that line.
 

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sorry I'm not up on fence builder jargon, my origional q was pertaining to posts, would there be any benefit for using pressure treated 4x4's vs. red cedar. Thanks Redwood for the comment
 

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As a side note my local yard has gone with micopro because thats all the treaters are shiping. I asked the sales mang about the ground contact sticker his reply was its only .25,not .40. Its made for ground contact not to be buried in the ground or covered with dirt. Thats the total jive he got from the micropro rep.

If times were not so bad I would think about ordering .40 cca from Bayou City in Houston. Most of my jobs require a pt block fastened to the pier then backfiled there is no way I can do it without covering the ground contact plate with dirt. I really hate those guys. J.
 

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Your right about the treated lumber John, it's mostly all crap now.

A lot of folks don't know you can still get .40 CCA treated lumber, just not in sizes 2x6 & smaller.

The micro stuff they sell at HD's & such is .15 & is not rated for ground contact & has no warranty against rot. The treaters will not warranty .15

A can guarantee you there are wantabe deckbuilders using that crap thinking & telling their customers that's it's good treated lumber.

For the op, around here cedar pickets & rails will be rotted by the time the cedar post rot, but if there are termites around they will go right up the post & destroy the fence in no time. We have lots of termites around here so almost no one still uses cedar post.
 

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let's see

Treated lumber rated for ground contact 20-30 year warranty

Cedar buried in concrete no warranty

Which do you think will last longer?
I would LOVE to see someone try to have a company warranty a piece of PT lumber :rolleyes:
 

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What the Hell is up with that Al???? I dont understand the whole thing how can we build these high $ projects total fancy and all on top with 0 protection below. What are these guys thinking.

Why are they doing this:drink: O Well,,,,, mostley I blame the green mafia but I am thinking the treaters are making a few bucks on it. JonMon showing non chartector istic restrant.....it is impossible right now to build a frame for the long run. I my very own self removed a show deck I sold 7 years ago the project was not build for all that much weather but I did land it on .40 acq. The faliure rate on the pt blocks was around 70 % .

In the fond hope of non Contratror viewing being limited, this is a very bad time for low ballers geting inside our business either the green mafia or the treaters greed.

Sorry Guys,the JonMon is completley baffled.
 
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