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The machine has to make 50 a day in labor savings for it to be profitable. Or the other side is to have it billed back to the customer at a minimum rate to do things (set steel, highwalls, trusses, ect ). Moving one stack of sheets to the second floor your money ahead already.
The $50 would include: The cost of the machine, fuel, maintenance, repairs, and transport. This roughly equates to about 20 working days per month which makes it about $1000 per month.
 
Warren said:
The $50 would include: The cost of the machine, fuel, maintenance, repairs, and transport. This roughly equates to about 20 working days per month which makes it about $1000 per month.
The realistic is if it's not paying itself and making that much back it's not working enough. I figure my machine covers a 15$ an hour labourer for 30-40 hours a week. Plus it never gets tired and complains. My monthly costs are a bit north of 2k and I'm pretty close to doubling that in savings and billable items
 
The realistic is if it's not paying itself and making that much back it's not working enough. I figure my machine covers a 15$ an hour labourer for 30-40 hours a week. Plus it never gets tired and complains. My monthly costs are a bit north of 2k and I'm pretty close to doubling that in savings and billable items
I think the $1000/month is just the machine cost to break even. Definitely has to earn more than that to have a return on investment. Don't forget also, it requires an operator. So the actual operating costs would be the $1000, plus the cost of the operator times the hours per month. Lets say the operator is me and for simplicity we say $50/hr for 20 hours per month. We now have a total cost of $2000/month, machine and operator, to break even.

But your right in that it definitely replaces a laborer. If we take the laborers cost at $3200 per month, we are already ahead by $1200 per month. Too early for me to tell for sure, as winter really messes up my profit projections. My goal is to reduce our crane time by 50%, Keep it in continual use, and evaluate it after the end of this year. I have no doubt, that at the worst, I will be a few thousand ahead, as well as prolonging the careers of myself and my crew.
 
C2projects said:
Finished this one up yesterday.
Something I recently realized as I started to put together a portfolio, is that I always had messy sites. I use to be of the "hurry up and blast it out" mindset, but I've strived lately to be more orderly and neater on my sites. It certainly has helped me be more efficient on the site. It also makes your finished product standout when you don't have scrap wood laying all over the place.

Then again, I have zero experience working in snow, so I'm unfamiliar with the challenges that brings.
 
JesseCocozza said:
Something I recently realized as I started to put together a portfolio, is that I always had messy sites. I use to be of the "hurry up and blast it out" mindset, but I've strived lately to be more orderly and neater on my sites. It certainly has helped me be more efficient on the site. It also makes your finished product standout when you don't have scrap wood laying all over the place. Then again, I have zero experience working in snow, so I'm unfamiliar with the challenges that brings.
I highly agree. We spend 10-15 minutes at the end of every day. Either restacking or cleaning up in prep for the next day. Having everything organized and clean work areas keep the guys more productive and less likely to trip over scrap. Up here in the north we can be fines by the MOL for not keeping jobs clean enough or not a straight walkway into the job. Taking the 10 minutes to keep it clean daily pays itself back the next day, every time.
 
$50 a day is def cheaper than renting. our lull rentals come out to $112 a day I think. and it's always worth it. but we don't need one that often and have nowhere to store it if we owned one so we're better off just renting.
 
kiteman said:
Really nice, Jesse. What do you use for flooring systems, and how are they attached at the perimeter?
Typically it's top chord bearing floor trusses (16"-24" in height depending on span) 16" o.c. Sitting on double 2x ledgers. Then you would add 2x blocking at the perimeter between floor trusses and Tapcon those to the masonry.
 
Yeah should have cleaned up before the pictures. Our site was clean through out. The supervisor kept complimenting us on how neat our site was. However the las couple days it was a bit or a disaster.
 
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