[JonM]

I have an electric on demand...I swear by it....

http://www.stiebel-eltron-usa.com/tempra.html

 

[JonM]

Electric tankless heaters are retarded. They serve no purpose and will never pay for themselves.

Wrong wrong wrong....My neighborhood has no natural gas in the street. I also have no basement so I have little room for a oil fired water heater in the closet...I also wanted AC so an oil fired furnace with a tankless option was out of the question...along with government and utility company rebates, they nearly paid for all the equipment. I think I was out of pocket for 900 dollars for a new furnace with AC ductwork and the HW heater...I did all the labor of installing the equipment myself with my neighbor (HVAC guy) checking my work and charging the system.

 

[JonM]

I see. So, just how much does an electric tankless heater save over a modern electric tanked heater in terms of stand by loss percentages?

I await your knowledgeable answer........:whistling

I have no idea what it saves or doesn't save as far as fuel consumption...my point is space and amount of continual hot water. Picture a fat azz tank in this room and you coming to service the furnace...I'll bet you would bi*ch and moan then....:w00t:

 

[JonM]

Translate jackleg piped please...:blink:

 

[JonM]

I think I have most of that all covered...the cold 3/4 inch line does have a ball valve on it...and also the meter is in the same closet with a shut off on both sides...The braided lines come with the Tempa unit and the directions specify their use. As for waiting for a part...Stiebel Eltron is only about an hour and fifteen minutes from my house...and I have also taken my fair share of cold showers when I was younger...it's not a big deal...:clap:

I think he was referring to the braided supplies and the lack of a full port ball valve.

Just wait until a flow sensor goes bad or an element blows and you get to live without hot water for a week while the part gets ordered. I'm a service plumber so I know a thing or to about tankless heaters. I'm the guy who gets to tell the homeowner that they will be paying to overnight the special order part.

In your defense, that tempra is the most reliable electric tankless around. Electric units as a whole are very unreliable though.

And the answer to my previous question is 1-3%. That works out to $1 or less per month for most people.