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Hi everyone,

I have a question regarding Unions. I am currently being forced to join a union due to a few of my guys signing up two years ago. I am a small contracting company, and I do not do any union projects. The people who signed these cards are no longer with me. Does anyone one know the quickest way to get out of this? I have tried fighting it, but the labour board has declared my company a union company. Complete waste of time and money. My lawyers did absolutely nothing for me. I was thinking of closing up, and reopening a different company. Does anyone have any info or experience with this?

Thanks in advance!
 

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I'm no union expert, so forgive me for posting without answering your question, but that seems retarded. How can you be forced to join against your will? Forced by who? What will happen if you tell them to go pound sand?
 

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U are getting fooled my friend.
 

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nobody can force you to join anything. tell them to go piss into the wind.
 

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Sounds like you're in Canada (labour), so I can't say for sure, but if it were down here, I'd tell 'em to go to hell.

You're the owner right? One of the joys of being the owner is you get to do what you want and can't be forced to do a damn thing.

The government has declared your company a union company? Says who, exactly?

Get your guys involved...make it in their best interest to fight it with you.

"Ok guys, here's the deal...they say we have to join a union. I'm promising you right now, that's NOT going to happen. If I have to close up this company and reopen under a different name, I will...but building a new name can take time so I can't be sure ALL of you will necessarily be hired back right away."

At least it wont be a shock when it happens, if it comes to that.
 

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Hi everyone,

I have a question regarding Unions. I am currently being forced to join a union due to a few of my guys signing up two years ago. I am a small contracting company, and I do not do any union projects. The people who signed these cards are no longer with me. Does anyone one know the quickest way to get out of this? I have tried fighting it, but the labour board has declared my company a union company. Complete waste of time and money. My lawyers did absolutely nothing for me. I was thinking of closing up, and reopening a different company. Does anyone have any info or experience with this?

Thanks in advance!
So what you are saying is what ever union you are dealing with did a campaign to unionize your company. A percentage of employees need to sign a recognition card to start the process. You say the guys are no longer there. That sounds like a salt situation, where the union sends a few guys in to convince your other guys to sign up. Cards get signed, those salts who have been collecting a paycheck from you, and the union is making up the difference to put them back to their union wage, pack up and move on to the next one.

So how was the process after the cards were signed? What negotiations took place. You say your attorneys were no help. Were they specialists in labor law?

At this point im not sure what you can do, but I would be in contact with a good attorney that is experienced in labor laws. You may not be able to run away simply by closing one company and opening another.
 

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If you don't do any union projects as you said, then you don't pay union scale. I'm not seeing any problem, except for the lower wages of the employees.
 

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I think either you've been totally misinformed or we're being trolled.
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But, as long as we're talking about un-ions, local trade union spent the summer picketing a restaurant here because when built, they used "unfair labor practices".....aka: they didn't use union labor/thugs and went with normal, working people....for less money of course.

Good thing it was summertime because the union used two kids (I'd guess 16-18 yrs old) to hold their sign in front of the business.
I asked the kids if they were in that trade: no.
I asked the kids if they're a member of that trade union--no.
I asked the kids if they were getting union wages to picket for them: no.

Told the kids the union is doing exactly what they are protesting contractor/business X allegedly did--using lower paid, non union people.

But I've realized why unions use these 4ft tall and 6' long picket signs. IBEW likes to use central americans for their scabs and it makes sense as when you pick up a camera to take the picture, they all duck.....but can still stand sort of upright and keep the union protestation sign upright.
 

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Kowboy said:
If you don't do any union projects as you said, then you don't pay union scale. I'm not seeing any problem, except for the lower wages of the employees.
A: how do you know the workers are indeed getting lower wages?
B: how is workers making lower wages a problem?
 

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Modern unions are nothing short of domestic terrorists. They bankrupt companies, then wash their hands of it and move on to the next. Non skilled floor sweepers shouldn't make $30 an hour.
 

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Even without doing union work, if you/your company signed a union agreement in the past, then you can't quit, consider yourself infected with herpes, you can't get rid of it. Once you signed once as a company owner, any company you own now or in the future that is regulated by the local you are with automatically become union companies.

I have 2 guys who were union when they joined me, they have since quit or were expelled from the union and I am not union nor obligated to any union
 

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Chris Johnson said:
Even without doing union work, if you/your company signed a union agreement in the past, then you can't quit, consider yourself infected with herpes, you can't get rid of it. Once you signed once as a company owner, any company you own now or in the future that is regulated by the local you are with automatically become union companies.

I have 2 guys who were union when they joined me, they have since quit or were expelled from the union and I am not union nor obligated to any union
Infected with herpes... Lol.

I'd like to hear someone get on here and explain all the common sense behind a union and all the good that they do. So far the responses haven't been very pro union...
 

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ClaytonR said:
Infected with herpes... Lol.

I'd like to hear someone get on here and explain all the common sense behind a union and all the good that they do. So far the responses haven't been very pro union...
I read somewhere recently that the union is currently around 20% of the workforce, so relatively small but extremely vocal and well financed.

The union has some advantages, and disadvantages
 

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ClaytonR said:
Infected with herpes... Lol.

I'd like to hear someone get on here and explain all the common sense behind a union and all the good that they do. So far the responses haven't been very pro union...
The guys that have been in the unions for years won't have any complaints because they're raping, i mean raking it in. The new members get the shaft. My uncle joined the union in Massachusetts, told me how great it was gonna be. Then they have no work for him, but the dues keep coming.
 

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Chris Johnson said:
I read somewhere recently that the union is currently around 20% of the workforce, so relatively small but extremely vocal and well financed.

The union has some advantages, and disadvantages
13% in the States...

But they're shooting for 70%.
 
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