[SC sawdaddy]

Heres the problem, I have framed up a sunroom with a double french door and four windows, two on each side. Windows have been ordered for about a week so they are coming as ordered. Home owner says he'd rather have the windows to be twin windows on each side. I contacted the supplier and they can send a mull kit to be assembled in the field. I dont think it will be a big deal but I've never put two windows together before. If a the plan called for a twin then I ordered a twin.

The framing wont be a problem at all the porch header is carrying all the load so I just used a 2x4 header and sill plate. I'm just not sure how much PITA money to charge on the change order to cover putting the windows together to be a twin.

How much trouble am I looking at here? I'm not sure if I'm going to have to cut the J channel off of the outside of the windows where they meet.
Windows are Reliant vinyl clad new construction.

I'm probably should be more worried about getting him to sign the C/O.

 

[PrestigeR&D]

Very simple....snaps in the tracking.....

If there is one on the exterior and interior.. I dont see a problem but you should call the manufacturer and ask them.....

Just taking an assumed guess on this one.....


B,

 

[SC sawdaddy]

Just what I wanted to hear Brian.:thumbup:

 

[Tom Struble]

vinyl clad or solid vinyl? either way it's no biggie but your going to loose the built in j around the entire window and i would install a drip then new vinyl j

 

[SC sawdaddy]

I'm almost possitive its a clad window Tom but I wont know until it gets here. My supplier said it had the built in J all the way around so I'll just have to cross that bridge when I get there. I agree with the drip. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks for the reply.

 

[CompleteW&D]

That built in J-Channel could be a problem if it's part of the frame extrusion rather than a snap in J-Channel/Nail fin type arrangement. If I were you, I would tell your supplier to contact the manufacturer immediately to make certain.

You don't want to end up in a trick bag where you have a non removable J-Channel that's part of the frame's extrusion and then have to figure out a way to field mull them. You could open yourself up to all kinds of leaks and other issues.

Just my $0.02, FWIW, YMMV, IMHO and all that.

 

[Tom Struble]

you could still rout or cut the face of the j off if needed on a j extrusion
no John?may loose the warranty on the frame but..

 

[CompleteW&D]

you could still rout or cut the face of the j off if needed on a j extrusion
no John?may loose the warranty on the frame but..

I suppose you could always do that for sure Tom.... but what would worry me is keeping the opening water tight once you cut off that integral J and then try and butt/mull those windows together in some fashion. Sure, it could be done, but I think it's a can of worms just waiting to be opened.

If it's just a snap in J with a nailing fin.... then that would be no worry at all.

Maybe I'm looking at this a little too cynically.

 

[Tom Struble]

don't do that:no:this is our happy place:thumbsup:

 

[Tom Struble]

i guess another option would be just to install them as singles as tight together as the flanges allow,the re j it, just bumping new vinyl j to the j extrusion,add a u shape or a piece of pvc as a mull

i think i have never seen a clad unit with built in j:blink:

 

[CompleteW&D]

i guess another option would be just to install them as singles as tight together as the flanges allow,the re j it, just bumping new vinyl j to the j extrusion,add a u shape or a piece of pvc as a mull

i think i have never seen a clad unit with built in j:blink:

Yeah.... I was talking about a vinyl window where the J and nail fin are part of the main frame extrusion. On an aluminum or vinyl clad wood product.... you are absolutely correct in that there is a receiver channel that piece is snapped into and would be a fairly easy fix in the field.

Even some vinyls use the receiver channel with snap in J/nailing flange. But not all....

 

[VinylHanger]

I'm assuming that if the supplier can get a mull kit for these windows, it may deal with the J. If not, can't you use Azec or something in the middle behind the J, butt the J together, screw on the mull strip and flash whats left of the channel between to divert water? Should be no new J needed.

Disclaimer: Clad windows are very rare around here, I've never dealt with them, so I may be all wet.

 

[Tom Struble]

yea thats would be the issue,flashing the top imo you would want a z drip then a j

if you add this how do you not re j the rest of the unit?

 

[CompleteW&D]

yea thats would be the issue,flashing the top imo you would want a z drip then a j

if you add this how do you not re j the rest of the unit?

I think you would have to. And, I'd make darned sure the z drip extended out as far as you could under the new J as well. As long as you kept the water out of the top, it should be fine. But it's the top I'm still a littled worried about. :sweatdrop: (notice I said worried - not cynical, Tom :whistling)

 

[VinylHanger]

If you sticky tape the inner flanges and flash at the bottom you should be able to run the water out. Not perfect, but if the inner section is totally filled it won't let water in. Cap the whole sealed thing in with the mull strip.

Tough no matter what. You could always use expansion foam.:jester:

 

[SC sawdaddy]

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i guess another option would be just to install them as singles as tight together as the flanges allow,the re j it, just bumping new vinyl j to the j extrusion,add a u shape or a piece of pvc as a mull

i think i have never seen a clad unit with built in j:blink:

Good point Tom. I very well may be mistaken. I just called the guys at Reliant and told them what the customer wanted. (At that time)
I've been trying to remember the last windows that I got from these guys. It was a whole different situation and different window style. But I know the rep said I could get j all the way around so at the very worst I'll have to cut the channel in between.
Guess we'll see what we have to work with Monday.

I suppose you'll want pictures. :laughing:

 

[PrestigeR&D]

Yes!...…:thumbup::clap:...:laughing:


Hope all goes Monday,:thumbsup:




B,

 

[Tinstaafl]

Hope all goes Monday,:thumbsup:

I don't. I hate it when everything goes all Monday on me. :jester:

 

[SC sawdaddy]

I don't. I hate it when everything goes all Monday on me. :jester:

In that case I hope your Monday sucks.

 

[CompleteW&D]

Got my fingers crossed for ya SC. Hopefully it won't be a problem at all.