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No he did it. Erik, you have no tact man. haha,is that the Bridger canyon remo you did with duane or did you do that with nate. I wish I got to side that one.

I cant believe you didnt post one of my jobs, last time I sub to you...........
 

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No he did it. Erik, you have no tact man. haha,is that the Bridger canyon remo you did with duane or did you do that with nate. I wish I got to side that one.

I cant believe you didnt post one of my jobs, last time I sub to you...........

Sorry this one was to easy because I took that photo off of Matt Schuylers Website! haha Roofings the only thing I can really do from start to finish!
 

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How did you flash around that chimney in the valley? I can't believe architects are that stupid. We've ran into a few of those...difficult to fix!
 

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How did you flash around that chimney in the valley? I can't believe architects are that stupid. We've ran into a few of those...difficult to fix!
I said that about a week ago and it was erased. I wonder if the Engineer or builder is here....:rolleyes:
 

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Funny how that works though. Because it looks good from the ground, it is a job well done, period. The rest of the people on the planet judge a roof on it's appearance, while the roofers tend to judge it on it's technical merits. Unfortunately the roofer tends to lose out :laughing:. There are exceptions of course, but you generally don't find them in, especially inthe urban setting.

It's funny how leaks are almost more acceptable than a bad cut line in a valley, crappy metal detail work or scuff marks on shingles. Aesthetics are everything.

With most modern architecture I am always surprised to see a simple design without stuff like chimneys in the valley anymore.

I do not believe the purpose of an architect is to design buildings that 'work'.

Nice lookin roof :thumbsup:
 

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That is really some Logic there Mr. Roofer.
I do belive that i have heard it all now.

Next time I have an issue w/ a customer I will simply say to the complainer (whiner)
"Sir, that shingle I installed looks great in Certainteed's LandMark Literature. Just look at the picture."

then I guess I just walk away, or hang up the phone?

ps, btw, fwiw etc----- the white rake edge does not match
 

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Twill - I agree with him. 9 out of 10 homeowners only care about how their roof looks and if it doesnt leak until after they move out. Thats the reality of the situation. No one ever comments on how nicely valleys are cut (unless they are horrible looking), you never hear anyone say "wow those shingles are straight".

To homeowners a roof is a roof. If it looks like other roofs in the neighborhood they dont care even if it is improperly installed.
 

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twill,

I come form the school of doing the roof right the first time. This means it does not leak, AND it looks good. Both are priority number one. :1eye:



It has nothing to do with a picture in a brochure, I wasn't referring to that, if this is the angle that came across, that was not my conveyance at all.



Of course people expect a freshly installed roof shoudln't leak, generally speaking though, only the people inside the building are really going to know the truth of that matter.

However, everybody else passing by on the street IS going to notice how the roof looks, therefore the quality of a roof is judged more so by appearance than function.

It doesn't make it right, it makes it what it is.


I like the white rake edge, I never really paid so much attention before, but I think it really accents the rake lines, without being over the top. Perhaps the rest of the house could use a few more accentutions in the lineage, then the rakes wouldn't stand so alone in that regard, otherwise they are wonderfully subtle IMO.
 

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Funny how that works though. Because it looks good from the ground, it is a job well done, period. The rest of the people on the planet judge a roof on it's appearance, while the roofers tend to judge it on it's technical merits. Unfortunately the roofer tends to lose out :laughing:. There are exceptions of course, but you generally don't find them in, especially inthe urban setting.

It's funny how leaks are almost more acceptable than a bad cut line in a valley, crappy metal detail work or scuff marks on shingles. Aesthetics are everything.

With most modern architecture I am always surprised to see a simple design without stuff like chimneys in the valley anymore.

I do not believe the purpose of an architect is to design buildings that 'work'.

Nice lookin roof :thumbsup:
LOL we are working a gutter job on a train station. The Metra rail road safety monitor and myself were chit chatting and he was explaining how the gutters have beena problem since day one. Installed wrong and bad design for the building I explained. The gutter flashing is a funky concept of a two part drip edge on a standard low profile drip edge then another drip edge over it. The Metra safety monitor and myself concured that the architects often design stuff for no other reason than to justify their inflated ego's and invoices. Things need not be so complicated to work, and in this case didn't work due to their complexity.

We just finished a house last that had TWO chimneys in a valley.


Twill in regards to the color choices, I do not get involved nor do I show any care anymore. Some customers of mine have ruined the look of their house IMO, but they loved it. So who am I to complain? It's not my house. At the same time something I think may match, often times the customer does not. This has happened to me several times when trying to match shingles for repairs, where I picked the best match I could and the customer didn't like it and picked a worse match, now I just make them pick. it takes more time but at the end of the day it takes less time than doing it twice because they don't like the color. One more example yesterday I was talking about computer parts with my aunt and she said "the purple thing in the corner?" I said "Purple that thing is blue-blue, not even close to purple." She insisted it was purple. One of our eyes are fugged up.
 
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