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I just bought a 4300 International, equiped with a pintle coupler. All my current trailers are gooseneck. I will be purchasing a skidsteer soon, and plan to build a 20cy dump trailer to haul it.

I cannot decide if I should build the dump trailer as a bumper pull (lunette eye or ball coupler), or gooseneck. The primary hauler for the trailer would be a Dodge chassis cab. I am thinking to build it as a bumper pull so that the International could pull it in a pinch.

How well would my chassis cab pull a pintle set up? Or should I just go with a 2 5/16 ball for that small of a truck?

Estimated specs on trailer:
2) 7K axles (tandem singles)= 14K total weight rating
Empty trailer weight= 4-4.5K
Dump box= 16x7x5
 

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The pintle will have a little play in it, but I've pulled out 7500 lb skid steer with my baby 1500 a few times. We gave a pintle on the equipment trailer. It's got some play in it, that's for sure. It gets a little sketchy at about 50 mph
 

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Why not keep it all the same if you have multiple trailers that are gooseneck? Might be more simple and I assume you have multiple trucks to pull it.

We've got just about the same trailer for our skid steer or small equipment but not a dump has a smaller beaver tail. It has a pintle hitch and I've pulled our t300 at about 10k with my 11 f-250 with no problems. The only thing I don't like about the pintles is how much they move around in tow. I also think when you get into the higher weights the ball hitches won't cover the weight.
 

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A Pintle hitch is much stronger.

I have a 14K trailer I pull with my F350 crew cab. Never have an issue, the minute amount of play does not factor in.

I would think your Dodge should pull just fine set up as a bumper pull as long as you get the tongue weight right.
 

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I don't personally have any pintle hitches, but I see a lot of them being used. It looks to me that one of the advantages is; it appears easier to hook up to trailer by ones self. Just line the truck and trailer up, back into it, as opposed to being dead center over a ball.
 

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I don't personally have any pintle hitches, but I see a lot of them being used. It looks to me that one of the advantages is; it appears easier to hook up to trailer by ones self. Just line the truck and trailer up, back into it, as opposed to being dead center over a ball.
That's very true.
 

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Why not keep it all the same if you have multiple trailers that are gooseneck? Might be more simple and I assume you have multiple trucks to pull it.

We've got just about the same trailer for our skid steer or small equipment but not a dump has a smaller beaver tail. It has a pintle hitch and I've pulled our t300 at about 10k with my 11 f-250 with no problems. The only thing I don't like about the pintles is how much they move around in tow. I also think when you get into the higher weights the ball hitches won't cover the weight.
If you use an actual pintle hitch and not a ball/pintle combo hitch there is hardly any movement at all. Personally I can't stand using the ball combo hitch for that very reason.
 

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If you use an actual pintle hitch and not a ball/pintle combo hitch there is hardly any movement at all. Personally I can't stand using the ball combo hitch for that very reason.
I use a real one and it's got play in it
 

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From what I gather, you need to size your lunette ring to your pintle. If not, you may have an undersized ring, which will bang around. A proper mated ring to it's respective pintle should not have slop. Again, I have ZERO experience with pintles, all this info is what I have read....

I switched from ball bumper pulls to goosenecks maybe 7-8 years ago, and pulling GNs is way better. The reason I am thinking of going pintle is because my new International rolloff has one, and was thinking it could (easily) pull the skidsteer, although the Dodge chassis cab would be the primary tractor.
 

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I have done A LOT of reading on many other forums, and half the posts say pintles bang a 3/4 or 1 ton truck around too much, and the other half say how great they are. I am absolutely confused, so I thought I would ask her, to further my dilemma.....
 

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From what I gather, you need to size your lunette ring to your pintle. If not, you may have an undersized ring, which will bang around. A proper mated ring to it's respective pintle should not have slop. Again, I have ZERO experience with pintles, all this info is what I have read.... I switched from ball bumper pulls to goosenecks maybe 7-8 years ago, and pulling GNs is way better. The reason I am thinking of going pintle is because my new International rolloff has one, and was thinking it could (easily) pull the skidsteer, although the Dodge chassis cab would be the primary tractor.
They are the same size, it's just the nature of pintles. It has a lot more to do with weight distribution than pintle itself. Bigger trucks weigh enough you don't feel it, like a pickup.
 

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Agree with the above.

Another factor is the brake controller. If the brake controller is set properly, there is not a lot of banging and bumping.

I have the combo hitch on my pickup and the eye fits very tight on that, no motion at all.

There are eyes that are light duty and will bang around on my hitch. An air compressor for instance has a small diameter eye, and will bump around.
That eye is not rated for what you need.
 

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Go with the pintle.

It offers more articulation (more secure also) in offroad situations, its hard to steal one if you are not setup for it as its not a common hitch, and its much easier to hook up to.
 

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pintle might be "okay"...easier to hook up...but once hooked up, i'd MUCH rather pull a fifth wheel than a tail dragger.
 

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I don't personally have any pintle hitches, but I see a lot of them being used. It looks to me that one of the advantages is; it appears easier to hook up to trailer by ones self. Just line the truck and trailer up, back into it, as opposed to being dead center over a ball.
Even easier with a backup camera. Thing is great, I usually hook up by myself and it saves ten trips back and forth to get it just right. Thing is awesome!
 
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