There is so much wrong with that.
I can't even begin.
J.
I can't even begin.
J.
Pergola knee braces
Hi guys,
Building a pergola roughly 10' x 10'. 6x6 posts. It's on the deck that I posted in 'Post a pic of your current job' thread. It's all pressure treated. Originally we were not going to wrap the posts. Now the h/o wants the posts wrapped in cedar, no problem.
Due to the warpage/twisting of drying out PT, I'm going to build the post wrap slightly bigger so they are somewhat 'floating'. It will be fastened to the posts, but not much.
How do I go about the knee braces now? Cut a hole in the cedar for it to attach to the post? (structurally stronger). Attach it to the cedar wrap? (less strong but cleaner look)
Thanks
*edit. I guess I will have to upsell him on cedar wrapping the braces too.
Building a pergola roughly 10' x 10'. 6x6 posts. It's on the deck that I posted in 'Post a pic of your current job' thread. It's all pressure treated. Originally we were not going to wrap the posts. Now the h/o wants the posts wrapped in cedar, no problem.
Due to the warpage/twisting of drying out PT, I'm going to build the post wrap slightly bigger so they are somewhat 'floating'. It will be fastened to the posts, but not much.
How do I go about the knee braces now? Cut a hole in the cedar for it to attach to the post? (structurally stronger). Attach it to the cedar wrap? (less strong but cleaner look)
Thanks
*edit. I guess I will have to upsell him on cedar wrapping the braces too.
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So don't.
The knee braces are cedar 2x6. I am leaning on cutting the appropriate hole out of the cedar 1x8, will just be a tough cut. Anybody encountered this post-planning stage?
The knee braces are cedar 2x6. I am leaning on cutting the appropriate hole out of the cedar 1x8, will just be a tough cut. Anybody encountered this post-planning stage?
Mount structure to structure. Not structure to trim. Trim is to help with structure to make it easier on the eyes.
So Id be opposed to mounting the "knee brace" to cedar trim. Yes tell him to wrap everything or nothing
So Id be opposed to mounting the "knee brace" to cedar trim. Yes tell him to wrap everything or nothing
knee brace then wrap
Thanks guys. Will post a pic when its finished.
Just build the entire thing our of cedar. For the cost in material on a 10' x 10', it's a no brainer imo.
I would have to agree with this, especially when you add in the cost of labor for the wrap. I bet it's a wash or close to it.Just build the entire thing our of cedar. For the cost in material on a 10' x 10', it's a no brainer imo.
No doubt, and can you imagine what a PT pergola would look like in 3-4 years. Can you say POS. No offense HD, sometimes you have to stear customers away from doing stuff like that.I would have to agree with this, especially when you add in the cost of labor for the wrap. I bet it's a wash or close to it.
This is true. I have failed the deck community. I'm not a very good salesman and up to this point have for the most part gone along with what the customer has wanted.
He insisted right off the bat on all pressure treated. Original contract was for the deck only. Then he added the pergola. It was not supposed to be wrapped at all. No exterior addons to the pergola. Now he has put me in a 2 week delay because he just had to get these faux stone pillars that are a one-piece sleeve that slide over the top of the pergola posts, so I can't build it.
Yes I have a delay of work clause in my contract that I could have pointed out, but the guy has been so nice and helpful, literally helped me dig the footing holes, pour the concrete etc, bringing me drinks, nicest guy in the world that I can't do it. I got tired of waiting and built the pergola just tacked together (safely) so when the stone pillars arrive I can just dismantle it, install them, and put it back together.
I know exactly where I went wrong in this whole thing. Hindsight is always 20/20 right? The second he decided he wanted these faux stone pillars, I should have taken charge and made them part of the project, as an upgrade to the contract. Also, before we started, I should have pressed him on the look of the pergola and made sure that he was 100% happy with how we planned it and any changes at all would affect work, cause delays, = more $$.
Anyways, a profitable deck job has turned into the opposite due to my lack of experience, but I am learning :S
He insisted right off the bat on all pressure treated. Original contract was for the deck only. Then he added the pergola. It was not supposed to be wrapped at all. No exterior addons to the pergola. Now he has put me in a 2 week delay because he just had to get these faux stone pillars that are a one-piece sleeve that slide over the top of the pergola posts, so I can't build it.
Yes I have a delay of work clause in my contract that I could have pointed out, but the guy has been so nice and helpful, literally helped me dig the footing holes, pour the concrete etc, bringing me drinks, nicest guy in the world that I can't do it. I got tired of waiting and built the pergola just tacked together (safely) so when the stone pillars arrive I can just dismantle it, install them, and put it back together.
I know exactly where I went wrong in this whole thing. Hindsight is always 20/20 right? The second he decided he wanted these faux stone pillars, I should have taken charge and made them part of the project, as an upgrade to the contract. Also, before we started, I should have pressed him on the look of the pergola and made sure that he was 100% happy with how we planned it and any changes at all would affect work, cause delays, = more $$.
Anyways, a profitable deck job has turned into the opposite due to my lack of experience, but I am learning :S
Hey Nick, how are those posts fastened at ground level? Looks great btw.I was faced with the exact same situation. 10'x10'..
I suggest 4x4 knee braces. Perhaps...
Put the knee braces first and wrap everything.
Clean lines and solid connections!
Chalk it up and move on. You will never make that mistake again.
And the best part is now that he got these pillars delivered, one is all cracked.
Set 4' below grade.. I didn't set the postsHey Nick, how are those posts fastened at ground level? Looks great btw.
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