Well before I jump the gun, I'll ask this first. Did you use a tile ready pan in the shower? Or was it formed/poured?

 

A tile ready pan, installed to manufactures specs.

 

I used the schluter shower system. Super easy install. And thank you

Tile Redi pan:

Schluter Pan:

There's a big difference between the two.

I was concerned with the wall tile being laid before the floor was laid.

Why would the order make any difference regardless of pan material?

 

It's PINK

Im sorry that was incensitive. But I grew up in one of those all pink bathrooms with the all pink tile and tub and sink and counters and tp holder...and and. I have a predisposition to disliking pink. It does contrast with that wainscotting very nicely though.

Ha it's ok, it's actually a light purple, could never do the pink.

 

oh, well then you should be ok. I was concerned with the wall tile being laid before the floor was laid, but I've seen it done both ways on the tile ready pans.
Which brand of tile ready pan did you use? I've only used them 2x's and that was several years ago, I suspect they've come a long way since then. I have a buddy who is an absolute magician with the dry pack....so I don't bother with pans any longer.

On a side note. If you truly are only 18 and did that nice of a job, you will have a VERY prosperous future ahead of you. You clearly have a knack for the details. Stick to the baths and kitchens and you will earn a very comfortable living doing something you enjoy!

 

Nice work man. Good to see your using the correct methods and products. Most people double/triple your age have trouble doing work like that. Stick around and you could learn a lot more from the guys on here.

 

I used the schluter shower system. Super easy install. And thank you

 

Great Job! That is work you can be proud off.

 

I didn't see it in any pictures, but did you use a VB behind the cement board?

 

I never use a VB behind a shower wall. For insulation, it's either cellulose or unfaced fiberglass.

 

I didn't see it in any pictures, but did you use a VB behind the cement board?

The Kerdi is the VB

 

Someone once told me that because the cement board is not a VB, to install at least 4 mil under it. I can see the Kerdi being the VB. I have never used it. It is adhered with thinset?

 

Rob, if I get another bathroom job soon, I'll invite you along to see some of these techniques.

You should be introduced to AquaDefense. Not at all expensive and will really help any further bathroom remodels you may encounter. Actually, it does more than that.

Good stuff!

 

Someone once told me that because the cement board is not a VB, to install at least 4 mil under it. I can see the Kerdi being the VB. I have never used it. It is adhered with thinset?

Yes

 

Less potential for water to penetrate beneath/under the floor tile. If sloped properly and the floor tile is beneath the wall tile there is less likelihood of water actually being able to penetrate. Grout and/or caulk only lasts for so long. I'm sure you've also torn up tiled shower floors that have actually been compromised due to joint failure. Granted most of these were built before all the new innovations in pans and waterproofing, it still inclines me to stay on the safe side and always lay the floor first, then work my way up.

 

I disagree with that. Once it's caulked, what difference does it make?

The pan is waterproofed so if moisture does get down there, it will follow the slope to the drain.

Porcelain tile: .05% absorption rate
Urethane grout: .05% absorption rate
Silicone: Well, it's s-i-l-i-c-o-n-e

The reason I tile the pan last is it's easier to see the joints I need to cut out from the wall instead of trying to follow the bottom of the first of row of tile. Also, by doing the walls first, I'm not standing on the freshly laid floor tiles.

I know many install the 2nd course of tile, floor and then go back to the first row of tile. Seems like too much jumping around for me.

 

Less potential for water to penetrate beneath/under the floor tile. If sloped properly and the floor tile is beneath the wall tile there is less likelihood of water actually being able to penetrate. Grout and/or caulk only lasts for so long. I'm sure you've also torn up tiled shower floors that have actually been compromised due to joint failure. Granted most of these were built before all the new innovations in pans and waterproofing, it still inclines me to stay on the safe side and always lay the floor first, then work my way up.

Either way, tile and grout isn't waterproof... A silicone joint will not absorb any water

 

Not to dog on anyone, but Whipple said:

"Using silicone as a waterproofing is crazy."

So which is it boys? Can you tile guys agree on anything?

 

I'm just sayin that water would absorb grout before silicone so what does it matter if your floor tile is laid first... Its different in certain circumstances

 

Another good point. You grout the entire pan, right :thumbup:

 

And that opens up a whole other aspect. Do you rely on the homeowner to physically inspect all the seams, and hold them accountable to make certain it is properly caulked? It's easy for the homeowner to stand there and acknowledge their responsibility as you are explaining to them the importance of inspecting the shower and keeping up with the needed maintenance, it's another thing for them to actually do it. Moreover, far too many contractors around here don't use mold retardant caulking...so what is the first thing the homeowner does when they see that ugly black stuff growing? They get a razor/knife start scraping it up and head off to the local box store for a fresh new tube of caulk. Only to rely on the 19 year old to instruct them on the "proper" type of caulk to use in a shower/bath. Not all caulks are created equal!
Just my .02

I get paid for perfection and that includes my caulking skills :thumbup:
I haven't had any problems with Latasil caulk with tile jobs or SwanStone...

 

I would love it! And I would buy lunch. :thumbsup:

You could also offer help with his posting style :laughing:

 

Nah, I'm not much of an introduction section guy :lol:

 

Nah, I'm not much of an introduction section guy :lol:

Rob is shooting for 2500 posts by Sunday so we'd better start recruiting new members... :lol:

 

There's no "shooting". It's gonna happen, less a ban gets in my way. :whistling

 

Angus, please don't take this as me wanting to argue. It's just the way my mind works. It won't except "take my word for it" answers. I have to have answers.

Sorry!

 

Awesome job dude ! Inspiration for me and my brother to do contracting I showed him the pics ! Hopfully in the future well cross roads and do work man!