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I have been doing this deck and fence building for 4 decades now and have never built an outdoor kitchen.

Well that is about to change. I designed and built a really, so I say, nice Fiberon split level deck going down a slope. If I knew how to up-load pictures here I would show you and gat your feed back having seen the job.

Clemens cleaned up my photo's so the Ipe pops instead of looking dull, he would not tell me how he did it.

I digress I would like some kitchen constructing ideas. first off what is choice of framing materials, metal studs or treated wood, height normally used, my client is short, how deep from front to back?
I plan using granite for the top and splash guard.

I am guessing I would build the frame then pick out the grill, egg, or whatever he wants in it then call a granite company and let them cut it to fit?

I have been told somewhere that I should use a thicker granite for this type of application?

I plan on using the man made stone, I think it looks great and is much lighter than the real stone. This is being built on top of this deck. Yes the extra framing was put in place when we were building the deck.

If I may where is the best place to buy kitchen grills and appliances?

Thank you for your input,

Bob
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We have a local place that sells all the stuff you would need, www.bbqoutfitters.com
Not all that keen on plugging them since they sell pergolas & farm them out to a competitor, but my webguy does their site so there you go. The do sell nice grills, I have checked out their place as I pass it all the time.

Seems you ought to have a local place there too big as DFW area is.
 

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Kitchen appliance information



Thank you for the information and I am sure you are right but I don't have a clue on how to find it.

I sure like your town.

Brian Mcquin and I visited a place in Arlington about a 100 years ago. He is or was with Texas Decks in Houston and came up to look at a manufacture he had purchased from before, but they have since folded.

Thanks,

Bob

P.S. Is there a spell check as part of this program because mine sucks?
 

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I digress I would like some kitchen constructing ideas. first off what is choice of framing materials, metal studs or treated wood, height normally used, my client is short, how deep from front to back?
I plan using granite for the top and splash guard.
Metal studs in your application.
24"-30" depth, but verify to check grill specs.
30"-36" finished height. It really just depends on what is comfortable to your customer. Once again be sure to verify all door specs / pull out drawers to make sure they will work with a lower counter height. Standard is 36"

I am guessing I would build the frame then pick out the grill, egg, or whatever he wants in it then call a granite company and let them cut it to fit?
Yes.

I have been told somewhere that I should use a thicker granite for this type of application?
Not sure, I follow. If you build your frame right, you will be okay.
 

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If you need a granite co. let me know, my daughter reps that area for a stone supply co. & knows folks up there that install granite/marble.
 

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Cole has given you about the same advice and dimensions I would.I would aquire the grill,refrigorator,wine rack or any other appliances before starting on the frame.You may have to adjust your dimensions to accept them.Especially the height since 36" is standard finish helght for a kitchen counter.
 

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If you need a granite co. let me know, my daughter reps that area for a stone supply co. & knows folks up there that install granite/marble.
That would be great. I would rather deal with one of our own than a stranger.

Thanks to you and your daughter, you for the current and past her for the future.
 

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Bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the sweetness of a cheap price is forgotten.

I stole that quote from my wife's boss about 4 decades ago.
 

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I have used BBQ Guys as well and have been happy.

Remember to give them plenty of countertop space to place food / plates / drinks etc. I would love to see your design as well.
 

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Any suggestions on the gauge of metal studs to use for the framework of this kitchen? I am sure some work better than others but if I am able to tap into an experts point of view, that would save me a lot of misery and money.

Thank you for your time and advice.

Bob
 

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Any suggestions on the gauge of metal studs to use for the framework of this kitchen? I am sure some work better than others but if I am able to tap into an experts point of view, that would save me a lot of misery and money.

Thank you for your time and advice.

Bob
Hey Bob.
24g is what's sold as a prefab and it's fine.
I've had several sets made doors were perfect but install was painful.
Materials is about a wash. labor is very fussy. especially on the hinges.
I've used both metal and wood for framing. The one in the pict took me about 1/2 day to build out of wood. Mine are usually against a wall or integrated as railing or privacy wall.
If you use wood add 1/2 cement board the same kind for tile 3x15. If it's metal you don't need it.
I do quit a few of these and crank out pretty fast because I took the time a while back to design options a, b or c. Pull my plans out and produce like china. Just buy the doors and drawers then take less then 10min to install each... and I mean less then 10min.
 

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I don't know if you can get to the album pictures I put up but it shows the deck I will be putting the kitchen on. The kitchen will be built on the upper portion of the deck enabling people sitting at the counter area to talk with the people on the lower level.

As of this time my ability to move around on this site drastically needs improvement. Is there a spell check with this site my spelling ability is another thing I am lacking?

Thank you,

Bob
 

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City Decks Pro. Thank you very much for your valuable information.
Would you please give me your name?

The picture you enclosed of the kitchen looks great. How many drawers do people normally want?

How did you upload that picture so anyone can see it?

You say you normally build yours against a wall or railing. I have been thinking of removing the railing where I want to put this kitchen. The railing is made of cedar with tubular Decorators bronze balusters.

wanting to use a man made stone look for the exterior would be difficult to install the stone with the railing there and a bit too busy.

Bob
 

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What wood did you use to make that table, is it Ipe? I really like the seat backs too nothing harder than sitting in an upright position all the time.

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What wood did you use to make that table, is it Ipe? I really like the seat backs too nothing harder than sitting in an upright position all the time.

Bob
Name is Yanni and obsessed with outdoor builds.
ipe table yes.

4x4x 3/16 steel sqr tubes (scraps in the shop) welded a bottom plate. set 3/8 all thread in to concrete. leveled off with nuts to a 16th. the ipe was dato'd with router. 3/8 x 2" (scrap in shop) steel was inserted triple poly sealant and screwed with spax screws. The mid section is snugged down with solid brass old school window latches.
The ht, angle and table is set just perfect. I build a lot of benches and getting more and more kitchens on roof tops and yards make overs.
 
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