Stay green ya grow.:thumbsup:

 

Kudos to the old codger, I for one couldn't and wouldn't do the physical labor like that into my seventies.
Hell, I won't do it in my fifties.
I'll just sit on my fat azz in front of a computer and have a heart attack in my sixties.
I got it all planned out.

Andy.

 

:thumbup::thumbup:

 

Keeps you young

It usually seems guys who do carpentry work are well preserved. I've seen my gramps unload and finish 7 yards of concrete (72 years young) all by himself.
My mentor is 63 years old ex-army vietnam era. He could bury most 20 year olds how hard he works. I've had younger guys walk off the job saying "it's too hot". Then he and I finished the job without any problems. Plus he's a little guy. But this work makes you tough. :thumbup:

 

Good show. Learn all you can from him. Some of this knowledge is becoming extinct.

And don't forget to play it forward.

 

I used to get a kick out of trim crews....the older the guy, the smaller the saw.

Learn all you can from him. Some of this knowledge is becoming extinct.

Hopefully the old guy won't get too pissed at having this younger guy slowing him down.

 

i think you mean pay it forward kato...unless your a golfer then you have it right:jester:

 

It is nice to see someone appreciate us

 

18 and just out of high school I was working for my grandad on a 3 story roof, struggling up a wobbly wooden ladder carrying a roll of 15# felt. My 68 year old Grandad was on the ladder next to me carrying 2 rolls of felt.

My Dad warned me of days like this

:laughing:

 

:thumbsup:

 

I'm 36 and have been building and remodeling for 18 years. I now have my own company and for the most part I usually hire older carpenters. They just work better! Young guys (25 -30) think they know sooooo much. An old guy has forgotten more then they know! My lead carpenter is a great framer and has more knowledge then I do. So I'm happy he's on my team and not someone else's.

 

Good for you!!
Smart move on your part!!
Sounds like you wised up at a young age!! :thumbsup:

 

well....us old guys do forget alot thats for sure:blink:

 

Man, aint that the truth. :laughing: :blink:

 

Thanks for starting this sweet thread Tanthony...they don't make us like they used to. I'm lucky to have been schooled by a couple of older ornery tradesmen when I was really young, dumb and full of it...Hat's off to the "Old School"! Perspiration Inspiration! These old guys must be laughing now with all the fancy nail guns and saws and such... My best friends Grandpa(Carpenter) used to come home from work each day and sharpen his handsaw...lived to be 93 by the way... I love my yob!

 

Hat's off to the "Old School"! Perspiration Inspiration! These old guys must be laughing now with all the fancy nail guns and saws and such...

As a kid, I watched my father and his old school craftsmanship. He used hand saws for many things other guys would only shake their head at.

He never had an electric miter box, never a nail gun.

The only power tools he had were a router, radial arm saw, circular saw, jig saw and a few drills.

He never used a power drill for driving screws.

The point I'm making is, the old timers did remarkable things with the tools at their disposal. That they would laugh at the newer generation for taking full advantage of the tools available today is hard for me to believe.

Today's craftsmen are doing remarkable things as well, with the tools that are available to them. I think the old timers sit in equal amazement of the new guys, as do the new guys of them.

 

At my first construction job as a laborer, I met a couple of older fellows like the one you mentioned. It's because of guys like them I decided to become a carpenter. Just the skills and experience of these guys blew me away, they told some pretty cool stories about different jobsites over the years too!

 

or amusement...either one is good:thumbup:

 

todays craftsman are doing just as good work as the old timers, but with the new tools their doing it in 1/4 the time. its like anything you master the tool, but also master how to use the specific material to its complete potential and you will do amazing work

it still blows my mind away when i see an old kitchen that was built in place, and all the plywood was ripped by hand saw, with ripped mitres that are dead on accurate, some table saws cant do that :thumbsup: my hats off to the old timers

 

This is true. Years ago finished panelling was a true 1/4" thick. We would rip the mitres with our hand saw and fine tune it with a block plane. No moldings to cover a bad joint.

 

Hey there Loneframer,
I never said they were "laughing at the new generation and their tools". I'm sorry you took it that way. I would assume most if not all of them embrace any new tool that makes their work faster, easier on their body, and of higher quality if it's reasonably affordable. I know I sure do. "Laughing" probably wasn't the best word. I meant "laughing" like when you get to use a front loader instead of a shovel or a jackhammer vs. a sledge or when you got to use your first nailgun, chopsaw, screw-gun etc... It just kind of put a smile on yer face right?... it did mine at least...still does.

 

Thanks MW for that one-makes me laugh...
Another "Wise old timer" told me much the same... but in a different vein...said "you got time to fudge up, you got time to fix up"...he said the F-word alot. I'm letting that part of his teaching fall away... most of the tuckin' fime...

 

My grandpa is a builder, he's 77. Last year I swung by his place and he was unloading sand out of his pickup with a shovel. He had a large pile of sand, it apparently wasn't his first trip. It was 230 in the afternoon, about 100 degrees. I asked what he was doing while getting a shovel out of my pickup, and he said im about to start mixing this sand with Portland and gravel so I will have concrete for my fence posts. Wow

 

Hey there JAWTRS,

Perhaps the Yankee screwdriver - about 100 years old. They work really well and are fun to use too!... I bet Grandpa has one or two. Ask him about all that old school stuff and hang out with him and pick his old brain and ask more questions and hang out with him and bug him and stuff... you might learn something interesting...Grandpa Carpenters are my Idols - did so much with so little and made it look so sweet!

- Regards

 

Yeah, he and the old man built their houses from the ground up.

Never seen the man drive a screw without drill though. Have to ask him about it. He can hand pound the sh** out of some nails though. He uses a wood handle 22 ounce with electrical tape around the head. Its a sight to see. I look like a house wife trying to hand drive nails.

 

I've got one.

I use it.

I like it.

And I'm a young guy, but I have much love for the older generations:thumbsup:

 

You use it to make money or for fun? I have a ripping saw but only use it for fun

 

$80 screw driver, oh brother...

 

Aww come on, it's green and the best you'll ever use.
Don't knock it till ya try it.

The extra extension is for 1/4 sockets, and the handle tilts either direction for left and right handers and provides a great deal of torque.

Extra bits store in the handle, and the green cap on the end hold bits for close quarter screwing

This screwdriver is a PERMANENT fixture in my tool bag, and I feel naked without it.

 

Hey there JAWTRS,

Perhaps the Yankee screwdriver - about 100 years old. They work really well and are fun to use too!... I bet Grandpa has one or two. Ask him about all that old school stuff and hang out with him and pick his old brain and ask more questions and hang out with him and bug him and stuff... you might learn something interesting...Grandpa Carpenters are my Idols - did so much with so little and made it look so sweet!

- Regards

You mean the original cordless screw driver.:thumbsup:

 

My dad is 58 and has worked construction for a long time. I have learned so much from him as have others. Our local high school has a construction program and they build a new house every year and auction it off. He is now teaching the next generation and they are lucky to learn from him. And because of safety they build it sort if old school..no nail guns..all hand nails!

 

In the eary '70s I was doing siding and soffit work. I used the yankee srewdriver for the soffit srews.

Then they invented cordless drills. Never used my yankee since. I've still got it though.

I recently got the new 12 volt Dewalt lithium. I love it. Small, lightweight and lots of power for that kind of work.

 

I hate slotted screws.

 

Especially the solid brass ones that were pretty much the norm on old door hinges. I grew up in a very old town with many homes over 100 years old. Lots of jobs fixing stripped screws in old doors and jambs.

Edit: especially the solid brass ones with 100 years worth of paint in the slots.

 

Especially the solid brass ones that were pretty much the norm on old door hinges. I grew up in a very old town with many homes over 100 years old. Lots of jobs fixing stripped screws in old doors and jambs.

Edit: especially the solid brass ones with 100 years worth of paint in the slots.

I've had that problem too. If I need to remove it ,I'll take a Drexel tool with the cut off wheel and re slot it. Works like a charm.:thumbsup: