Would Ash do this?

I have a few boards that did this, seems because it was more wormy than the rest?

 

That one is flat sawn, and gawd knows
what insults it has suffered in 120 yrs.????

 

Surprised all of Scout's toys aren't green. :laughing:

 

I don't know what the wood is - I do recognize the tools! Are you a dealer? They cant be yours the boxes aren't even dusty. :laughing:

 

I don't know what the wood is - I do recognize the tools! Are you a dealer? They cant be yours the boxes aren't even dusty. :laughing:

You don't know our friend Darcy yet do you? :no::laughing::laughing:

 

I thought it looked like oak as well...

What was the most readily available hardwood timber in the area 120 years ago?

 

I thought it looked like oak as well...

What was the most readily available timber in the area 120 years ago?

Chestnut, poplar,walnut, butternut,
red oak, white oak, elm,ash, beech,
catalpa, locust,hickory,...........

 

Looks like oak from here, too. I've been lucky enough to work with some of the old stuff, and it has a nice aroma, but nothing like the new oak...

Have you asked over at Woodworking Talk? Some of those guys are pretty keen.

 

My vote is for white oak. My dad would say "oh that's some old German Pine"

Neo is going to top 10K posts tonight :clap:

 

Neo is going to top 10K posts tonight :clap:

Man, I thought I had a shot at getting there before him back in February.:w00t: I'll conceed as of this moment.:notworthy

 

It still looks like chestnut, the poor mans oak!:thumbsup:

 

What kind of wood is this?

My vote is white oak.

 

looks like fir to me.

VG hemlock fir

 

looks like fir to me.


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VG hemlock fir

what about heart pine? seeing as your house is 'that' old the tight growth rings may fit the picture. If it's been gouged over the years (furniture, dog nails, etc...) consider it a softwood...so is it a softwood or hardwood?

Open pores in the grain?

 

what about heart pine? seeing as your house is 'that' old the tight growth rings may fit the picture. If it's been gouged over the years (furniture, dog nails, etc...) consider it a softwood...so is it a softwood or hardwood?

 

what about heart pine?

DING DING DING!!!!

He's right... It's heart pine. And yes, it flakes exactly like Warners last picture when left unfinished for a long time.

It was used a lot here on Long Island in the old homes, I have it in my own. It's a pain in the ass sanding off 75 years of neglect, but looks great when refinished.

 

The little pores look oak like...

I would try to run a scew throught it, oak always splits on me if I try to screw it.

Then cut a few pieces and snort the saw dust and see how much it irritates your nostrels.:laughing:

 

I really, really think it is some American Chestnut.

I have a partial floor joist that smelled the same as this piece when I cut it.

I am certain it is not Oak.

I should go clean up one side of those old floor joists and see what it looks like.

 

interesting thread.

found a great site for identifying wood species http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/:

comparing white oak and chestnut
http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/chestnut.htm
http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/oak, white.htm

 

Here is a link to the chestnut page:
http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/chestnut.htm

 

interesting read about the hardness scale at http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/ heart pine is close in hardness to white oak. no listing for chestnut though, but douglas fir and pine are half or less than half of the hardness. may be a way to rule out DF from your hit list.

 

And the one for Ash: http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/ash.htm

Fir: http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/fir.htm

Can't find a good heart pine one.

 

Here is some info on chestnut: http://www.woodfinder.com/woods/chestnut.php

 

I'm comparing your floor from post #25(sanded) to mine and they look identical.. Also the flakey board is exactly like mine...

 

i got the same floor in my 1920ish craftsman cape...
it's very soft, figured it for pine...

 

Y'know... you mentioned Elm grows a lot out there.. It has a similar grain... I used some to build a table once, and remember the similarity to pine (and alder and maple, etc)

 

Alex- you are right about the flakey board. That has happened to only 4 boards in the house. One thing, I have no knots either.

This actually kind of fun, I should go take a picture of a door I have from 1860 and let you guys try to figure out what it is.

 

It's official, my thanks button has gone limp!!

So, thanks, thank you and future thanking.

 

Still like to see a better shot
of that end grain, but it's hard
to compare real old growth grain
to new lumber.
Leaning more to ash or chestnut,
white oak is third and fading....

 

Still like to see a better shot
of that end grain, but it's hard
to compare real old growth grain
to new lumber.
Leaning more to ash or chestnut,
white oak is third and fading....

What would you like to see?

A nice VG one?
More of a flat sawn one?
Rift sawn?
One with a pretty lady holding it? :laughing:


or all of the above?

I can still clean up a side of that floor joist.

 

I guess since it's your kitchen floor regardless of it's true identity, call it what ever you want.:laughing:

I would call it ash to anyone that knew anything. But at a cocktail party with general civilians, I might refer to it as chestnut. It has a more exotic ring to it.

 

I guess since it's your kitchen floor regardless of it's true identity, call it what ever you want.:laughing:

I would call it ash to anyone that knew anything. But at a cocktail party with general civilians, I might refer to it as chestnut. It has a more exotic ring to it.

Hey old timer, the Ash is the crap on the saw horses, I know that!!!

It's the other stuff, I am not sure about!!

You been medicating tonight?:laughing:

 

Ok Warner, one more request.

Take a 12" stick of that wood and see if you can suck water through it.

If you can't, give it to the pretty lady for a try.

Report back with the results.

 

Ok Warner, one more request.

Take a 12" stick of that wood and see if you can suck water through it.

If you can't, give it to the pretty lady for a try.

Report back with the results.

Really? No, really?


That would be the first wood in her mouth in quite a while.

 

Any update on the 4 yr old and the slumber party?

 

I wished them good luck, it was quiet around the house tonight.

 

I wished them good luck, it was quite around the house tonight.

Good night to do the Neo wood test then.:laughing:

Man 4 is young for sleep overs. How many rug rats are at this party?
That couple may be in for an interesting night.

 

Good night to do the Neo wood test then.:laughing:

Man 4 is young for sleep overs. How many rug rats are at this party?
That couple may be in for an interesting night.

There were about 4, 4 year olds, a couple 5-6 year olds and 8 and 9 year old. About 8 I suppose sleeping over. My little girl (not little anymore) is very well behaved. She was totally excited about it, and the first one to want to put her PJ's on!!