We just cut our top and bottom plates to center on stud layout, and continuation plates as well. Odd length plates measured and cut. Double top plates terminate on stud/over headers and offset to lower plates.

Platform framing we 16 penny nail lower plates to line, square up walls, sheet, housewrap, stand. Or we'll build them and lift to location.

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We just cut our top and bottom plates to center on stud layout, and continuation plates as well. Odd length plates measured and cut. Double top plates terminate on stud/over headers and offset to lower plates.

Platform framing we 16 penny nail lower plates to line, square up walls, sheet, housewrap, stand. Or we'll build them and lift to location.

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No nail inspections in MI?

 

I didn't see where he said he's in MI. But yes, we don't have nail inspections. We have framing inspections and that covers the nails. You guys have inspectors that just inspect nails?

 

I didn't see where he said he's in MI. But yes, we don't have nail inspections. We have framing inspections and that covers the nails. You guys have inspectors that just inspect nails?

Roof nail inspection, shear nail inspection & dry wall nail inspection.

Framing insp is generally when structure is weather tight.

Shear insp is needed before siding is installed, roof nail prior to dry in...

 

You’re brand new at this or this is some kind of hobby, correct? Your bonus question is hard for me to understand what exactly you’re asking. Is English your first language because knowing that might help me try to dissect what it is you’re saying.

By reading your post I assume you are building your structures on a slab on grade. Conditions and techniques may vary for other foundation types. At least that’s how I do things. The only advice I will share is that you develop techniques that work best for the conditions that you have to work in per project. Be flexible. Once you discover a system that makes sense to you, that’s the one you need to capitalize on for those conditions.

 

framing professionally for 5 years, relatively new to running a project though.
English is my first language, but I’m 19 so maybe it’s just kid lingo

 

I will add:

I try to simplify things wherever I can. This way, it is easy to teach a new guy our methods, and the 20 year guys will remember them easily. I don't want to own an 8" saw with it's sole use being to cut plates. I hate tools that are one trich ponies. We have settled on 7 1/4 battery operated circular saws. This means no cords and lighter weight. The savings in time with that more than offsets the occasional second cut I have to make for each wall plate.

 

Op, you’ve got some learning to do. Is that how it’s done in your region or just your new method? Don’t seem efficient at all. As far as accurate how many plates have you cut?

Mike

 

If I"m gang cutting bottom and top plate with the 7 1/4 circ saw, I put them side by side and cut on the flat. Mark studs, etc at the same time.

 

I’d like to see a more detailed backstory from this guy so that I can understand where he’s coming from. Then I can evaluate if what I might offer is helpful or just me adding commentary.

 

.131...although some guys are using. 120.

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I don't cut the double plate that early. It just gets in the way. Let the guy building the wall deal with those.

 

Jarod, what part of MI are you in? Curious because in our part of the state we don't see much slab on grade. Is it residential?

 

I’m in Colorado, this is a walkout basement home, framed floor with standard subfloor

 

I've known 14 yos that are full grown, been shaving for a couple years, and could be a baby daddy.

I spent summers doing high ladder work and roofing,.... Starting when I was 10.

 

Are you placing butt plates over studs on layout, throwing an odd stud at the union, or none of the above?

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Are you placing butt plates over studs on layout, throwing an odd stud at the union, or none of the above?

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Yes, and for this particular house the joists are 16” OC so it’s continuous layout from the basement walls up, and any plate breaks are done in the middle of a stud

 

I also will generally get ahead of my crew laying out the exterior walls first, then waiting until those are almost complete to start layout on the interior. I have seen other crews that layout all of the walls first, but I think they just get in the way. Every job is different. I try to think ahead and sometimes that involves doing things differently than we did on other jobs. On a large house, you have more leeway on the order of things. On a few occasions, we have waited on the attached garage walls until we have most of the existing house under roof. This allows mechanicals to begin and provides us with some rain work.

 

Im missing something why an 8" saw to cut plates?????

 

My saw has 3” cut capacity. When cutting top and bottom plates for wall prior to layout I cut both plates in one go with a single mark

makes them 100% identical in length, and the saw is the same size as a 7-1/4

It’s honestly been my favorite tool mod I’ve done

 

Pic of the mod?

 

This is the best I can do for now

 

Tell us more about the mod


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I installed an 8” blade on my 7-1/4 makita rear handle cordless saw, I had to remove the guard, and file the inside of the blade housing near the front where it bumps in a bit. Once I got it filed enough to fit the blade on, I ran the saw while shaking it a little bit to get it to wobble side to side and actually shave some of the inside with the blade itself, there was only a tiny bit that needed to be taken down by the saw, but the magnesium is nice and soft and didn’t even dull the blade. I can get about 3-1/8 cut depth, 9/16 more than originally.

 

I get the reason/want for the mod,but if there is ever an accident using that saw, your comp ins will eat you alive. OSHA will also take a chunk of coin from you....and please no one try and tell me OSHA doesnt care about small residential guys...

 

I seem to remember one getting nailed for cords and cord ends and almost pit out of business because of the fines. Maybe Ninja.

 

Can you go into more detail on this. I find it hard to believe Osha would be so lax where you are. They ALWAYS find violations, and fines are generally in the thousands or tens of thousands. Doesn't sound like you got fined.

 

They fined us for fall protection. They guy was pretty chill actually, it was a similar scenario where the neighbors actually called them because we didn’t have masks on

 

That was ours as well. Among the most serious of their violations. Bet your fine was pretty big.

 

Fortunately we had harnesses on but had disconnected the rope. But had sufficient tie off points, and we were working on a flat floor, so I think we made it off relatively easy

 

Was working resi subbing back during 08 crunch. Was told osha fined g.c 250k for no handrail-fall protection. We went in & installed all necessary railing. Framing sub had been paid & skied up. Otoh I’ve seen em crawling all over comm. jobs, checking scaffold etc. all the way down to questioning hands about conditions-procedure etc. Alabama comm. was infested w/osha @ 1 time

Mike

 

It's great to see a young man coming up in the trades. You sound like a good guy with plenty of ambition.

Please replace the guard on your saw.

I know a guy, well I was there when it happened. Cut a piece of lumber with a circle saw, set the saw on the cut table and when he stepped away he must have moved the cord.

The saw fell off the table and sliced the back of his calf, nice and deep. That saw had a guard but it fell just prefect.

He's ok and a tough guy, wanted someone to take pictures of it for him.

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