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I just helped my employer do two decks. One at 12x12 and the other at 20x20. We used trecks decking and we used a new fastner system called the phantom IIs. Unlike the tiger claws who only have one claw which holds the deck down, the phantom II has two and it is screwed in place. Then the next board is placed on. The board has to be hammered in place and the claws have to be embedded into the slot of the board.

I thought this system is very unique and I would definitely suggest using it.:thumbup:

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trecks decking and a fastening clip that needs to be hammer slamed. Hmmmmm start today!!! sign me up. Betcha you get a bag of chips too. J.
 

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Yeah...it's a great system. It was only me and my friend/employer and that is all you really need. Have one guy go ahead of the other and he places the fasteners on every joist (except the one next to the end)into the slots of the previous board, while the other goes behind and screws the clips down. Some of the time you get a warped board. When that is all completed you take the next board and you slam it into the clips. If you get the warped boards you will have to secure one end so it doesn't pop out of place. Very sturdy and very fast.

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Oh yeah...these fasteners (phantom II) are very expensive. I think my boss said $100 a bag and I think there are enough to cover 100 sq.ft.

Rather expensive, but very fast and very nice looking.

I have some pics that I'll post later on in the pics forum thread.

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????...Crappy?...What's crappy? It's cool and fast and stright to the point. You couldn't ask for a better friend of a contractor. The faster you get done, the more can get done at other jobs and you make more money.

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Oh yeah...The guy who delivered the decking had no idea how to drive a forklift. He brought the decking in off of the truck but the decking rainbowed and almost cracked in two. And, what really pissed us off was that he ruined half of the boards when he slid them off the lift witht the lift in the air instead of tilting them off slowly on the ground so as not to damage them.

ULTRA-PISSSED is the word.

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I saw an add in a magazine for that new Trex system. The problem is I've used Trex in the past and it sucks. I've seen deterioration and fading within a year or two.

 

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That picture is of the tiger claw fastner system, not the phantom II. Of what I have seen of some trex decks...they last a lot longer than what you say BK...I have seen a 7 year deck still in pretty good shape.
 

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I don't understand...how is it crap...of what I've seen it lasts and it looks cool.
 

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It stains very easily, had a client that insisted on it even after I warned him of its short comings, gatorade, yes the watery sports drink, stained it in the first month the deck was down. It also dents easily and is prone to mold/mildew staining due to it high organic content. Other than that it is awesome.... JK

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Trex may look good and be cool if you have never worked with a quality product... Work with a high end product a couple of times and you will know why trex sux. There are many better HFS products on the market that work a lot better than the phantom II.

No offence but your boss is probably the type that does not know that there are other things out there than trex and what HD has on the shelf.

As far as the fork driver that just confirms my thought that he does not know a lot about products because if he did he would be working with someone who specializes in composite products and knows how to handle it.
 

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Sorry if I came across as trying to sell something. I just thought I'de suggest something I've seen that holds trex down.

My boss ordered it through HD because it was a special order so we didn't just pick crappy trex off the shelf. And they delivered it, but the dude didn't know what he was doing.

I just looked up trex and I found problems so...Yeah...I can take a hint...besides, I just saw a deck with a crudload of scratches in it, so I guess it scratches way to easily.

Oh yeah...can someone tell how to get pictures on one of the picture threads?...I try to take the pics off of "my pictures" but when I hit the picture button it tells me to type in the URL of the webpage I am going to get my pics from.

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I haven't added pics here yet, but I know on other forums it is easiest if you upload them to a page like photobucket and then you can paste the url from there. Hope this helps.
 

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Sorry if I came across as trying to sell something. I just thought I'de suggest something I've seen that holds trex down.

My boss ordered it through HD because it was a special order so we didn't just pick crappy trex off the shelf. And they delivered it, but the dude didn't know what he was doing.

I just looked up trex and I found problems so...Yeah...I can take a hint...besides, I just saw a deck with a crudload of scratches in it, so I guess it scratches way to easily.

Oh yeah...can someone tell how to get pictures on one of the picture threads?...I try to take the pics off of "my pictures" but when I hit the picture button it tells me to type in the URL of the webpage I am going to get my pics from.

Cheers

Ben

See it helps to do a little research before posting on a forum of deckbuilders coming off like a salesman pitching something we all (most of us anyway) know is crap, like trex in particular.

Don't tell us you or your boss is buying composite at HD & expect us to think you are a pro, your boss is on the same level as most HO's, inexperienced & uninformed.
 

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I have used that fastening system and hated every minute of it. Trex in general ???. As posted, google their track record. Azek Azek Azek! By far my #1 choice in deck material. Exp/cont minimal, 34%-40% lighter, totally concealed fastening (plug system a bit of a pain but worth it). I am doing a showcase deck at my house over the next few weeks. I will post pics when done.

Anyway, new to the site and look forward to conversing with everyone.
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