Need help quoting a metal door installation

God damn, you guys are a bunch of assholes.


Figure out what the exact scope of work is. that is determine if you will replace just the door itself or the jamb and casing or what and price that from some source.

Don't forget if you need paint, sandpaper or anything else.

I suggest you add a markup to the material price.

Guess how much time you will spend on the project installing it, picking up parts, etc. and multiply the hours you come up with to the hourly charge you decide on.

Put it all together for a total and submit it to the customer.

Andy.

Frame is likely tied into the block walls with wire clips laid between courses at 3-4 points each side, then frame slushed full of mortar. Demo is chop saw and hammer work, not easy.

After you get the frame out, clean up the jambs nice and smooth and replace with a new "thru fasten" frame and expansion anchors, sized to fit the opening. They make frames with 4" heads to work with block coursing, so you don't have that goofy 2" gap up top. Shim everything nice and plumb. tighten the anchors and caulk the jamb in place, set the threshold & caulk, install hinges and hang, install the hardware, then paint a couple coats. It's about a two day job for a good man. Panic hardware takes a lot longer than a standard lockset.

Commercial steel doors are best purchased from someplace that specializes in such. Typically lumber yard and big box store folks aren't very experienced with this stuff and you may wind up with some cheap lightweight junk if you by there. The big players in steel doors and frames are Steelcraft, Ceco and Republic around here.

Don't forget to allow for a secure, temporary overnight closure of the opening.

That is a welded hollow metal door frame. If it was set with the building it was installed before the block was laid and most definitely grouted. If it was replaced somewhere in the future it Is full of both grout and epoxy in the anchor holes.

You need a large cut off wheel to take it out in sections and to cut the anchors holding it in. You need to be careful and aware that you spend the time to get everything behind it both clean and flush for the new frame.

You are going to need a grout bag, the proper type of mortar, fast setting epoxy and possibly even someone who can tack weld. Unlike a knock down frame you don’t get extra chances if you get it set and realize it isn’t plumb or you didn’t predrill your holes deep enough and the anchors are setting up in the epoxy, or what I’ve seen a lot is guys pumping to much behind the frame causing it to bow (or in extreme cases, blow) the frame. There are also specifications on where to drill the new holes in a replacement as you don’t want to go into the existing. If you don’t know that in advance and have your manufacturer punch them in the correct place you could really mess up the frame.

As others have said if you aren’t familiar with it I would contact a commercial door company or a commercial contractor familiar with these types of installations.

It isn’t open heart surgery but you can absolutely cause yourself a lot of stress and problems, including financially, if you get to far ahead and realize you messed up.


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