[apzimmermann]

Okay Pros here's my problem, I am remodeling, well kinda, my mother-in-laws house. I have to hang 4 doors but the ones she bought are like 1/4 inch wider than the frames, easy solution, just trim the doors right? nope, tried, they are hollow core and the edge is only about an 1/8th so it is now a $30 table top. suggestions? Second, she has 2 dogs that piss in the house and she wants me to clean the cupboards that they use as a potty but when i use cleaner the smell comes out of the wood and she does like it, HELP!!!

 

[griz]

1/8", what the heck are the hinge butts mortised & screwed in to?

Dog pee out of wood? Good luck.

Maybe an enzyme like Scoe 10x.... It works....

http://www.scoe10x.com/Scripts/SCOE10X-Odor-Eliminator.asp

 

[HARRY304E]

Okay Pros here's my problem, I am remodeling, well kinda, my mother-in-laws house. I have to hang 4 doors but the ones she bought are like 1/4 inch wider than the frames, easy solution, just trim the doors right? nope, tried, they are hollow core and the edge is only about an 1/8th so it is now a $30 table top. suggestions? Second, she has 2 dogs that piss in the house and she wants me to clean the cupboards that they use as a potty but when i use cleaner the smell comes out of the wood and she does like it, HELP!!!

Tell her to walk the dogs a lot more per day,the key is walk them to the point there is no more pee coming out of them.easy solution .:thumbsup:

 

[chewy]

I apply simple green concentrate, makes people feel good to see me cleaning, doesnt matter if it works or not.

 

[SuperiorHIP]

I've installed a ton of hollow core doors, never seen the edges 1/8" thick.

 

[BlueRidgeGreen]

Lay the doors in front of the cupboards.

Allow dogs to commence urinating.

Wait for doors to soak up enough urine so that 1/8" becomes 3/4".

Cut.

Hang.

Or just take a belt sander to the jambs, 40grit it......1/4" in no time flat.

As for the smell of pee. Decorate for Xmas using cedar boughs, juniper berries and cinnamon sticks. Reevaluate decorations on a per holiday basis.

I see no problems.........only solutions.

 

[CarpenterSFO]

Lay the doors in front of the cupboards.

Allow dogs to commence urinating.

Wait for doors to soak up enough urine so that 1/8" becomes 3/4".

Cut.

Hang.

Or just take a belt sander to the jambs, 40grit it......1/4" in no time flat.

As for the smell of pee. Decorate for Xmas using cedar boughs, juniper berries and cinnamon sticks. Reevaluate decorations on a per holiday basis.

I see no problems.........only solutions.

You are the Answer Man! :laughing:

 

[Diggity]

Lay the doors in front of the cupboards.

Allow dogs to commence urinating.

Wait for doors to soak up enough urine so that 1/8" becomes 3/4".

Cut.

Hang.

Or just take a belt sander to the jambs, 40grit it......1/4" in no time flat.

As for the smell of pee. Decorate for Xmas using cedar boughs, juniper berries and cinnamon sticks. Reevaluate decorations on a per holiday basis.

I see no problems.........only solutions.

That is classic!

As for the post if you cant make the doors smaller you have to make the whole bigger. As for the pee you cant get it out! I have sanded hardwood floors with pee in them and never got it out. It soaks way into the wood.

 

[Calidecks]

First cut the door, then plug it with a 2x filler.

 

[apzimmermann]

Thank you Blueridge for the advice. As close as I can recall, if I sand the door jam, it will eliminate the cut outs for the hinges, I could router them out but with the trim on there it will be hard to get in there with the router. I am still puzzled by the fact that the door frame is smaller than the standard 30" door. This had to be a defect when they built the house and has never been fixed. The open is square, I measured from corner to corner diagonally and they were spot on but the opening is 29 5/8. I think that the hinges may be wrong for it. I'm gonna look again tomorrow and I will let you know.

 

[steex]

Take a 2x4 and rip it in half. The flat edge you make will become the new door edge. Cut the door to the correct size and then clean out any crud to make a hollow a couple inches deep. Measure your opening between the door skins, then rotate the piece of 2x4 90 degrees and rip it again to cut it to the correct thickness. Smear a bunch of glue on it and clamp it in place. You will probably have to hit it with a sander after it has dried. It will probably be stronger than it was before.

 

[K&K Carpentry]

I have done quite a few hollow core doors over the years and have never seen only 1/8" on sides. Maybe your tape measure is broke?

Cause with only 1/8" your hinges screws would be floating in the air, ties into nothing

Anyway just add a 2x filler like you would on the bottom after shorting up a hc door. No big deal

 

[hdavis]

1/8" makes no sense, even HD hollow core slabs have plenty enough for this trim.

 

[Okiecontractor]

I agree. 1/8th makes no sense. Can you exchange the doors that are still good for different doors? Like someone said HD has better doors than that for about the same price.

 

[Hand Drive]

pre hung units come with smaller doors in the hole. when you go out and buy a slab it is going to be about 1/4" wider than a pre hung unit. always an issue when changing a slab in a pre hung. a trick is to cut down both sides of door evenly instead of taking it out of one side only especially if the door has panels to keep the door centered in opening.

 

[Spencer]

pre hung units come with smaller doors in the hole. when you go out and buy a slab it is going to be about 1/4" wider than a pre hung unit. always an issue when changing a slab in a pre hung. a trick is to cut down both sides of door evenly instead of taking it out of one side only especially if the door has panels to keep the door centered in opening.

Interesting to know prehungs are undersized.

You could only take it off both sides if your lockset was not bored. Otherwise you are going to have bigger problems.

 

[Hand Drive]

Interesting to know prehungs are undersized.

You could only take it off both sides if your lockset was not bored. Otherwise you are going to have bigger problems.

it has been an issue for a few years. lot of times a 36" slab is 36" exact whereas a 36" slab in a pre hung is 35 3/4" with it being 36" jamb to jamb. I've taken out up to 1/4" on the strike side without interfering to much with the lockset, if anything may have to chisel a tiny amount out of the hole when the lock is inserted and maybe not re mortise the lock plate and maybe even set the strike plate a little deeper in jamb.

 

[Spencer]

it has been an issue for a few years. lot of times a 36" slab is 36" exact whereas a 36" slab in a pre hung is 35 3/4" with it being 36" jamb to jamb. I've taken out up to 1/4" on the strike side without interfering to much with the lockset, if anything may have to chisel a tiny amount out of the hole when the lock is inserted and maybe not re mortise the lock plate and maybe even set the strike plate a little deeper in jamb.

I had a lady bring me an oak solid core mission style door last week. They had already done the finishing on it but went to hang it and it didn't fit. She said she wanted 3/8 off the hinge side and the hinges re-mortised. I had a bad feeling about it.

Lockset was bored so I figured it all had to come off the hinge side. Took it off. 3/8 was just enough to get past the oak veneer and into the particle crap core. It turned out fine. I left just enough to have about 1/32 of veneer.

She probably had that situation, trying to hang a nice new slab door in a prehung opening.

 

[Hand Drive]

I had a lady bring me an oak solid core mission style door last week. They had already done the finishing on it but went to hang it and it didn't fit. She said she wanted 3/8 off the hinge side and the hinges re-mortised. I had a bad feeling about it.

Lockset was bored so I figured it all had to come off the hinge side. Took it off. 3/8 was just enough to get past the oak veneer and into the particle crap core. It turned out fine. I left just enough to have about 1/32 of veneer.

She probably had that situation, trying to hang a nice new slab door in a prehung opening.

I've had a few 1000 dollar plus slabs sitting in front of me waiting to retro fit to the old hole. I kind of tighten up some inch: when the saw starts. haven't had any come back and bite me but have had a few windows bite me, ouch.

 

[procrpntr]

Door slabs that r fiberglass or metal slabs are always smaller than wood slabs also I would take the quarter inch off th hinge side to render my poor cut, and crappy chisel mortise work from view.just Mark where the hinges were lol, the 1/8 inch thing is likely the veneer not the door frame. Look at the top or bottom edge you ought see frame of door there.
Good luck next time you order remodel doors check your existing slab. Over the years doors often get cut sanded etc to keep them working while house settles, swells ,shrinks, and so on.