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Rarely does a few weeks go by where some foreign company calls me to outsource our programming to another country. Many American's have been so shortsighted on small financial gains that we have given (and I emphasize "given") away all forms of manufacturing and service from Apparel, TVs, Furniture and even hospitals now send emergency room Xrays out of the country to get opinions. It turns my stomach on how stupid as a country we have been while others politely laugh in our face. And why not? They are taking everything with no mercy.

While many think we as a country have saved money, I believe we have given away the heart of what keeps lower to middle class working people from being employed. And now look where the short term greed has gotten us.

Other countries still are trying to chip away at us until we have been brought to our knees.

I am proud to say that 100% of my company's development, testing, etc., stays within the country.

The way I feel is that contracting is a business that requires a physical presence and can not be outsourced to a foreign country (at least without the labor coming to us) so I have lived by a principal of Made in America for American labor for the American consumer.

While I could have saved money over the years, I felt keeping my business in our country at all costs is the most patriotic thing to do in a time where many have let patriotism float away in the wind.

I have been failry polite when I get the phone calls and lately am getting more annoyed and less diplomatic becuase I treat the calls as another form of attack on our country, not just a solicitation to save money.

I just had to vent to the one group who may appreciate my stance.

Brian
 

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I find the the majority of my customers will spend the extra money for "Made in the USA" products as long as I make it know right up front that I buy American.:thumbsup:
 

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Rarely does a few weeks go by where some foreign company calls me to outsource our programming to another country. Many American's have been so shortsighted on small financial gains that we have given (and I emphasize "given") away all forms of manufacturing and service from Apparel, TVs, Furniture and even hospitals now send emergency room Xrays out of the country to get opinions. It turns my stomach on how stupid as a country we have been while others politely laugh in our face. And why not? They are taking everything with no mercy.

While many think we as a country have saved money, I believe we have given away the heart of what keeps lower to middle class working people from being employed. And now look where the short term greed has gotten us.

Other countries still are trying to chip away at us until we have been brought to our knees.

I am proud to say that 100% of my company's development, testing, etc., stays within the country.

The way I feel is that contracting is a business that requires a physical presence and can not be outsourced to a foreign country (at least without the labor coming to us) so I have lived by a principal of Made in America for American labor for the American consumer.

While I could have saved money over the years, I felt keeping my business in our country at all costs is the most patriotic thing to do in a time where many have let patriotism float away in the wind.

I have been failry polite when I get the phone calls and lately am getting more annoyed and less diplomatic becuase I treat the calls as another form of attack on our country, not just a solicitation to save money.

I just had to vent to the one group who may appreciate my stance.

Brian
I agree with your opinion. but as you know, if you want high quality parts in your country, you are safe stragic, there have some low risk to do this. but you want to buy normal parts, I suggest that you buy some parts from foreign company. it is best profit.
 

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I agree with your opinion. but as you know, if you want high quality parts in your country, you are safe stragic, there have some low risk to do this. but you want to buy normal parts, I suggest that you buy some parts from foreign company. it is best profit.
This is exactly why I agree with Brian's post! :rolleyes:
 

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I agree with your opinion. but as you know, if you want high quality parts in your country, you are safe stragic, there have some low risk to do this. but you want to buy normal parts, I suggest that you buy some parts from foreign company. it is best profit (for you).
YOU are exactly what he's talking about, bub.;)
 

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We have been so very disenchanted with the phenomenon of "Hey, it's a cheaper price, why should i pay more?" Very few people THINK about this decision beyond their own wallet. We call it a mental disease due to the fact that all logical thought halts and the brain shuts down.

Whenever we shop at Costco, HD, Lowes or Ace Hardware, we check the packaging to see if it's made in China. At times, it is difficult to locate the manufacturing mark. Every attempt is made to buy "Made in the USA". A lot of times this costs us more at the point of sale-BUT IT'S WORTH THE EFFORT. We prefer 1. USA 2. Germany 3. Japan 4.Italy 5.Other European made. The focus is ALWAYS to NOT buy China.(UNLESS it's Chinese food!)

WE NEVER EVER ENTER A WALMART!
Next time you rent a DVD, attempt to locate "WAL-MART The High Cost Of Low Price". It will definitely open your eyes and hopefully will make you change your thought process when you consider your purchases.

Just my two cents. Now I gotta go bend some nails.
 

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We have been so very disenchanted with the phenomenon of "Hey, it's a cheaper price, why should i pay more?" Very few people THINK about this decision beyond their own wallet. We call it a mental disease due to the fact that all logical thought halts and the brain shuts down.

Whenever we shop at Costco, HD, Lowes or Ace Hardware, we check the packaging to see if it's made in China. At times, it is difficult to locate the manufacturing mark. Every attempt is made to buy "Made in the USA". A lot of times this costs us more at the point of sale-BUT IT'S WORTH THE EFFORT. We prefer 1. USA 2. Germany 3. Japan 4.Italy 5.Other European made. The focus is ALWAYS to NOT buy China.(UNLESS it's Chinese food!)

WE NEVER EVER ENTER A WALMART!
Next time you rent a DVD, attempt to locate "WAL-MART The High Cost Of Low Price". It will definitely open your eyes and hopefully will make you change your thought process when you consider your purchases.

Just my two cents. Now I gotta go bend some nails.
Contrary to belief wally world does carry products made in the US. Costco, blowes and the depot are no better than wally world about it..they pound a supplier into submission for the lowest price. Some US manufacturers just can't get there. I usually buy American, Canadian and then go to the European countries.
 

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Another example of trickery from outsourcing

I just got this today (abbreviated to get to the point).
I tried to reach the person back (and have done so with others to have fun) and of course there is always someone else who tells you that Jonathan is out but they can help. Maybe it's me .... but I didn't know that Jonathan is a popular name in Bangalore. Possibly there is a new immigration wave we do not know about in the reverse direction? I heard that many foreign countries are having a hard time getting even cheaper labor, so perhaps they are now hiring the US workers for a song? :whistling

From: Jonathan R [ @invxxxx.net] Sent: Tue, Jul 28
Subject: Business Proposal.

I am Jonathan from Bangalore, India and would like to have an initial call with you to discuss possible outsourcing opportunities. Could you please let us know your convenient date and time for a brief Telecon?

Jonathan R
Business Development Team
Invxxxx Pvt. Ltd.,


PS. I changed a few letters above in the xxxxx to avoid challenges. Brian
 

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I agree with your opinion. but as you know, if you want high quality parts in your country, you are safe stragic, there have some low risk to do this. but you want to buy normal parts, I suggest that you buy some parts from foreign company. it is best profit.
Am I reading this correctly, or is English a Second Language to you? ESL?
 

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I've been saying it for years but mostly in the P & R section where I'm considered....odd.... for my sense of humor. :whistling

Buy American. If you make a little extra money buying your supplies overseas, you lose it to a decrease in customers who can afford your services. I've always owned an American car. I buy my produce from local farmer's markets. It is just common sense. Support each other. The ONLY people to make money purchasing stuff overseas, are the executives owning the company and the workers in the overseas factories. Guess what? None of them are gonna' hire you to build them something.

How do you like it when someone hires an Mexican to do your job? Same thing.;)
 

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Buy American.
Agreed, and if the product you seek isn't made in the USA then support one of Americas oldest allies. The Germans. Yes, not only did we help America win independence from the British (Hessian and Prussian mercenaries fought for Washington and trained US troops) but we also make great cars, trucks, tools, and electronics. Inside every German, is an American trying to get out. :thumbsup:
 

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Like I have said for years, The problems with OUR Country is the People we elect to the Congress and the Senate, But so many focuse on the President, who isn't sh*t, People need to know that these two groups control what happens in the USA, No one else. Intil these old timers like Levin and Kennedy Pelosie things are always going to be wrong for the American People we need People who are for America and the People not what's in it for the Congress or Senate member. They talk about National Health care, why is it the People of this Country don't have Health care like those in the Congress and the Senate? So as for this Government this is where the problem lies, always has always will intil the People of this Country come together and throw these Blood Suckers out on their ear. Man it's nice to Dream, cause People aint gonna take a stand intil it's to late:censored:
 

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Agreed, and if the product you seek isn't made in the USA then support one of Americas oldest allies. The Germans. Yes, not only did we help America win independence from the British (Hessian and Prussian mercenaries fought for Washington and trained US troops) but we also make great cars, trucks, tools, and electronics. Inside every German, is an American trying to get out. :thumbsup:
buy german, huh? so i could get a volkswagon, some festool, a couple sham-wow's, eat some bratwurst and kick back a Schwarzbier? sounds good to me :thumbsup:
 

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Just bought a used Pontiac Grand AM

I was able to pick up a used 2005 Grand AM with just 22,000 miles on it for 5K, final with taxes, tags, etc. Older couple used the car as a spare. I went to all the high end lots (BMWs, Porshe, Mercedes) who will do anything to sell an expensive car, including giving a big incentive for a trade-in, then they dump it to minimize the loss. That is the best place to do deals since the last thing they want is used American cars on their lots. Car is in immaculate condition, and even if something goes wrong, it will be worth what I paid. Plus it makes me feel good to keep the service towards the American brand. Brian
 

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As a manufacturer, I can tell you that an interesting trend we've found - It's not always the case anymore to find parts cheaper when you buy outside of the US...

If all manufacturers did their due diligence in shopping around for parts locally first, many would find you can make your product with 100% USA parts for oftentimes the same price or sometimes lower.

The SawGear is made in USA 100%, and we really aren't even considering outside parts for this reason.
 

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Agreed, and if the product you seek isn't made in the USA then support one of Americas oldest allies. The Germans. Yes, not only did we help America win independence from the British (Hessian and Prussian mercenaries fought for Washington and trained US troops) but we also make great cars, trucks, tools, and electronics. Inside every German, is an American trying to get out. :thumbsup:
I re-enlisted twice in Germany and spent a total of 7 years there. Nice place. I liked the topless beaches the most.:thumbup:
 
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