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Looking for 10"x10" VCT. (the thick commercial type (ex: Armstrong, not the thin vinyl stuff) Used to be available but now cannot seem to find anywhere. Looking for black and white tiles for traditional bistro kitchen look. 12x12 too large visually in my small space. Any leads would be appreciated.
 

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No such product. The old commercial 1/8'' or 3/32'' tiles were 9'' x 9'' not 10'' x 10'' and were VAT not VCT. They stopped producing them back in the 70's or early 80's because of the asbestos content. Even commercial VCT that is being produced today only comes in 12'' x 12''. VAT, Vinyl Asbestos Tile - VCT, Vinyl Composition Tile.
 

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You can cut larger tiles down accurately with a crain cutter and a stop guide. This has been done for years when creating patterns in vct installations. Our installers have produced amazingly intricate patterns with just a cutter. Curves and special designs can be created with patterns, heat guns or propane torches, sharp knives, snips and steady hands. Oh and a lot of skill!
 

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You will spend at least $275.00 and as much as $400.00 for a decent cutter. You could always sell it after you finished to recoup half the money spent.
 

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I have been in the business since 1973. Never been any 10 x 10 as far as I know.
 

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You can cut larger tiles down accurately with a crain cutter and a stop guide. This has been done for years when creating patterns in vct installations. Our installers have produced amazingly intricate patterns with just a cutter. Curves and special designs can be created with patterns, heat guns or propane torches, sharp knives, snips and steady hands. Oh and a lot of skill!
This. A small rooms worth could be cut down in an hour or so if that.
 

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for an average non-flooring guy, small job, rent the tile cutter?
I saw TWO VCT cutters a wall roller and a hand roller.......retail value well over $500 and closer to $600 for $100 on Craigslist in North Hollywood.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/tls/4427402042.html

In any big city they can be found for $75-$100 used all day long. But the "glitch" in that is you NEED the guide to cut 9"x9" consistently enough for a nice pattern checkerboard.

Not sure what the rental rates would be but that's certainly an option if you can't get one on Ebay or Craigslist in time. You can't do what you want to do without this machine.

There never was such a thing as 10" resilient.....asphalt, rubber, cork, VAT, VCT, LVT that I know of. They were 9" for a while. Then they had 9" or 12". Eventually 9" was special order and finally it was gone from the market as someone above mentions........late '70s early '80s across all manufacturers for STANDARD VCT/VAT. They had a brick pattern that remained 9" well into the '80s and '90s.

PUT A BORDER in addition to the checkerboard and the really nice way to do that layout is to set the main field on a diagonal. It just takes an extra minute. Oh, and you do have to know how to read a ruler/tape measure. Everything has to be equal cut size all around or you look like a schmuck.

For your purposes IF you choose a border there's no need to "clip" those with the tile gauge down to 9"x9". Just lay the border SOLID with the 12" tiles. I would make the border 9" all around but then again it really depends on the size and scale of the area to be covered. Again, when installing the border tile you also HAVE to center everything and get equal size pieces NO LESS THAN HALF A TILE........anywhere........anytime. It just takes a minute to measure, think and plan accordingly.

Have fun!
 

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Why not buy 18's and then cut them down to 9x9? At least you wouldn't be throwing away a crap ton of material. You'd have to have the Crain 18 inch vinyl special (a monster to carry around) or that Gundlach 24 inch one. I have a 12 inch Gindlach and the 18 inch Crain. I can't vouch for the big Gundlach.

BTW:There is no such thing as 10 inch vct.
 

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Why not buy 18's and then cut them down to 9x9? At least you wouldn't be throwing away a crap ton of material. You'd have to have the Crain 18 inch vinyl special (a monster to carry around) or that Gundlach 24 inch one. I have a 12 inch Gindlach and the 18 inch Crain. I can't vouch for the big Gundlach. BTW:There is no such thing as 10 inch vct.
Because you won't get them 9x9?

I'm not sure how exact he wants to be
 

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I put alternating red and white 12x12s in some small ice cream stores that looked fine. They went in a diamond pattern.
 

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I put alternating red and white 12x12s in some small ice cream stores that looked fine. They went in a diamond pattern.
Yeah 12x12 isn't too large for a small area IMO. Seems like a bit of aggravation for minimal difference. Unless 9x9 would end up perfectly equal with no cuts. That would be neat.
 
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Because you won't get them 9x9?

That's retarded. You could get within an 1/8th of an inch of 9x9. What is the point of laying such a turd in response to a serious answer?
 

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Get it done right.

This. A small rooms worth could be cut down in an hour or so if that.
I think your the guy I have to repair behind. I'm wrong but you look like him.


10in 11in 12in. none existent numbers! just center your floor with the main entrance of your kitchen or walk ways. You can achieve a centered pattern on 2 sides of a kitchen with good tape skills and a center strip of tiles. I would imagine that your kitchen has a center island; and that is why you want smaller tiles. If this is the case, separate both sides of the room with a solid color tile and tie into it from the center of your isles. The look you get from this will be a bit more flamboyant and keep the old time class your looking for, plus your tiles will spread even in the isles between the counter space. This is just an idea I just came up with. sorry to the other guy in my comment. just kidding man. keep doing it right...
 

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Just make a cutting jig.

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No you can't cut VCT like that and then lay those cut edges butt to each other in a large "field" the way he wants to. You NEED the Gundlach, Roberts, Crain, or Bullet tools machine WITH the gauge to make clean consistent size tiles with edges that can meet together the way they would were they cut in the factory. Even if you used a jig to mark, score and then gently heat the tiles so as to achieve the CLEAN factory edge the heating and cooling process would distort the size of the tiles and you'd have a ***** of a time laying them tight and square without the corners running off. And that's besides the fact that it would take a hundred years to do it that way. You have any idea how bad a checkerboard pattern looks when the corners run off?
 
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