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Gus Dering

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We will break ground on this "private" courtroom this week.
All done in cherry.
Must be finished off site and assembled in the room.
There will be a TV monitor in the recessed section in the middle.
I got an email yesterday saying the wall between the judge and the witness needs to be lowered so he can see the witness better. The wall with the post at the end will do the same. So one more revision to come.





 
Discussion starter · #12 ·
Gus, Will you be posting pictures of the build? (hint) What design software did you use?

I was thinking about doing that if there was any interest.
I use Cabinet Vision software

Here's the revised rendering. He mentioned lowering the opposite wall as well. I pointed out a few of the challenges associated with that and we came to the conclusion that it would be best to just lower the one wall.
I'm waiting on final approval and we are good to go.

 
Discussion starter · #19 ·
cool. how are you going to "piece" it together for assembly?

The plywood deck will ship in pieces and the joist system will break in two sections.

The judge's walls will break at the dropped section. The witness stand and the clerk's desk will ship loose.
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
Gus are you cutting all those parts on your cnc? You don't do the pockets on that too do you? Just curious, I know some guys swear by doing EVERYTHING on the cnc. Just getting into that technology... What are you converting your cabinet vision to, or does cabinet vision supply the complete rendering? Sorry, like a kid in a candy store.



Looks good.

We did cut most of what you see on the router. In some cases I think it's still better to cut by hand. The wall structure of this job may be one of those.

CNC machines are addictive. You'll end up wanting everything to come off the machine. But if it's something you don't program all the time and your software is being stretched in ways it was not designed, you'll end up spending too much screen time for a one off job. If we were doing several of these I would be able to justify the set up process and it would actually payoff

Cabinet Vision is great for making cabinets. And it's pretty darn good about flexing into other areas too. But if you are going to make one or two weird parts that you could do by hand, it still may be faster to do them old school. When you need the fourth or fifth part of the same shape, the machine will start to bury the old school ways. It takes time to figure out what is worth it to you and what's not. Addiction is a strange thing though.

Cabinet Vision does it's own rendering. Renderings are another one of those things that take time and you need to figure out when they are worth it or not. Most of the time I include them with my submittal drawings. They are very helpful to flush out detail troubles too. But you need to devote some time to the learning curve of a good rendering.

CV is a true screen to machine software package. No exporting info to another program. It's pretty awesome when you get a handle on it. Really is awesome. If you are in the cabinet manufacturing business, it's worth it over the not so long haul. It's not for the part time guy that dabbles in cabinet making. It's a production machine and CV is a great tool for the custom cabinet business.
 
Discussion starter · #29 ·
My guess is you will be working with a pod system. This is where you can place small vacuum fixtures out in the field where you need them and hold those small parts at different elevations and such. That's a different animal than our machine. Ours is a nested base machine. Where the vacuum is applied to the entire table or a portion of it. Really set up for sheet goods. And only three axis is needed. You are headed in a different direction all together. At least I think so.

I can build fixtures to hold parts but that again takes time. If you want 50 of something, let's talk. Anymore if it's not cabinet parts, I don't even get excited about a specialty job unless we are talking volume. It's fun to try strange stuff but if it don't pay the bills, it's hard to justify. Saying no at the right time is always a good asset.
 
Discussion starter · #34 ·
Man you got all the toys. Is that a time savers sander in the third picture? Looked like a holzher edgebander too. Nice shop. Job looks sharp.

That's a 36" Woodmaster drum sander and a Brandt edgebander.

I have always spent money on bottlenecks. There were times when the money available didn't measure up to the bottleneck. It's hard to replace tools. Much easier to buy right the first time. But.... Fill in the blank.

I still have a little portable planer I bought 20 years ago when I was working out of a pick up. And a 6" Craftsman joiner I bought for $300 in 1979 when I was living in a dorm room on Charleston Air Force Base. There's no logical reason I still have those on the shop floor. I could replace them pretty much anytime. Emotional attachment to my early years gets in the way, I guess.

But we do ok for what we have. I'm very thankful for what I have.
 
Discussion starter · #45 ·
That really came out top notch. Knock down parts to boot. Good planning. Better execution. Flawless form. No splash. 9.8 across the board. China lost this round.

Nice work.

Too funny :)
Thank you. I'll keep my emotions in check until it's finally installed.
 
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